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Re: [eduGAIN-discuss] eduGAIN and non "academic" IdPs


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  • From: "Leif Johansson" <leifj AT sunet.se>
  • To: Ian Young <ian AT iay.org.uk>
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  • Subject: Re: [eduGAIN-discuss] eduGAIN and non "academic" IdPs
  • Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 18:34:12 +0100
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> 28 nov 2014 kl. 18:22 skrev Ian Young <ian AT iay.org.uk>:
>
>
>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 16:58, Leif Johansson <leifj AT sunet.se> wrote:
>>>
>>> 28 nov 2014 kl. 17:44 skrev Ian Young <ian AT iay.org.uk>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 16:10, Peter Schober <peter.schober AT univie.ac.at>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *But* I think we have heard several reasons why (a) focussing on the
>>>> SAML IDP (or even the institution) may not be useful, and (b) coming
>>>> up with a shared/common understanding of the membership criteria for
>>>> such a category is highly unlikely to happen.
>>>
>>> I have to agree, although I'm open to be persuaded by an actual
>>> implementable definition that matches what people want to do.
>>>
>>> An IdP entity category could obviously be part of that, but I believe
>>> that an "academic IdP" category is not going to be the answer (at least
>>> to the stated goal of "connecting
>>
>>
>> agree - Doesn't mean it won't be useful...
>
> Absolutely agree, an "academic IdP" entity category might well be useful
> for *something*.
>
> For now, though, I'd prefer to concentrate on things that might address the
> OP's stated problem, and what I'm asserting is that an "academic IdP"
> entity category defined as you suggest isn't very useful for *that* unless
> you move the goalposts pretty dramatically.
>


Or we can slice the elephant and solve part of the problem first :-)

>>> To make progress, we'll probably find that we have to accept some shift
>>> in the boundaries of the use case.
>
> ... which is what I'm getting at here.
>
> -- Ian
>
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