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[Nicole Harris <nicole.harris AT geant.org>]

> On 20 Nov 2019, at 10:34, Leif Johansson <leifj AT sunet.se> wrote:
> 
> On 2019-11-20 09:50, Peter Schober wrote:
>> * Nick Roy <nroy AT internet2.edu> [2019-11-20 00:03]:
>>> Perhaps counterproductively adding to my rant below: ADFS is
>>> terrible, but works just well enough to lull people into the belief
>>> that it won’t screw everything up, as it invariably does, down the
>>> road. I spend at least 80% of my direct-end-user-contact time
>>> coaching people with ADFS problems. ADFS *should not be used* in the
>>> context of R&E federations, nor should other similar software. This
>>> is a real problem that I don’t know how to address in our context,
>>> but the problem is getting worse every day.
>> 
>> 
> 
> While I tend to agree the pain is mostly localized to those that
> choose to sniff this particular sock. The organizations who run
> ADFS do that for reasons that will not be influenced by what
> REFEDS say.
> 
> We may be able to get MSFT to improve things... I have had some
> chats with their new head of identity (or whatever the title is)
> Pamela Dingle who at least make the right noices. I know this is
> not the first time somebody said this too.
> 
> Possibly a statement from REFEDS if wielded in a smart way may
> serve to make things a bit more concrete.

I’d be up for giving it a go.  What harm could it do? 

> 
>       Cheers Leif