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Re: [eduGAIN-discuss] broken Filesenders in eduGAIN (was: Suggestions on SPs which offers service generally to all eduGAIN users)


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  • From: Dick Visser <dick.visser AT geant.org>
  • To: Peter Schober <peter.schober AT univie.ac.at>
  • Cc: edugain-discuss AT lists.geant.org
  • Subject: Re: [eduGAIN-discuss] broken Filesenders in eduGAIN (was: Suggestions on SPs which offers service generally to all eduGAIN users)
  • Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 08:18:01 +0200
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There may be more, but those might be hidden behind proxies (such as
the GEANT Filesender instance, which should work for you).
I wonder what is the best way to "advertise" or otherwise make it more
obvious what is behind a proxy.
Use a more elaborate description field for the entity so it shows on
https://technical.edugain.org/entities and make it more of a service
catalogue?

Dcik

On 13 April 2018 at 18:01, Peter Schober <peter.schober AT univie.ac.at> wrote:
> * Peter Schober <peter.schober AT univie.ac.at> [2018-04-13 17:53]:
>> And while you still might find quite a few Filesender instances in
>> eduGAIN almost all of them are unusable by default, on a scale that
>> warrants its own posting (forthcoming).
>
> Here goes:
>
> There currently are 11 Filesender instances published via eduGAIN.
> I managed to successfully log in into exactly 1 of them (InCommon).
> (2 more could possibly have worked by adding manual attribute release
> rules to my IDP.)
>
> The reasons for 10 failures out of 11 are as follows:
>
> * Doesn't allow choice of not-local-federation IDPs (Haka,
> Renater, AFIRE/ASNET, RENU, IRFED) or only lists a handful of IDPs
> that may or may not involve entities from other federations (URAN).
> All except maybe the last one (URAN) have no business being
> in eduGAIN, IMO.
>
> * Doesn't have an Entity Category to motivate attribute release
> (RedCLARA), or has neither an internationally recognised Entity
> Category nor any RequestedAttribute elements at all (CESNET).
> Those are not errors per se, but I'd still question why those are
> exposed to eduGAIN at all.
>
> * Doesn't load eduGAIN metadata (RENAM, CESNET's v2 instance)
> Clearly errors. Load eduGAIN-enabled metadata or remove the entity
> from eduGAIN.
>
> Personally I hope that this rather sorry state of affairs is more due
> to my previous claim that Filesender does not lend itself well to
> inter-federated access (as you'll want a fast and therefore often
> local network connection to the filesender instance, especially for
> the upload part, which also is the part where authentication is
> required) and that this is therefore not representative for eduGAIN in
> general.
> Realising that doesn't change the bad aftertaste left from such a
> simple excercise, with a rather epic fail (1 out of 11 working for
> me, 2 out of 22 for people who release whatever an SP states in
> RequestedAttributes).
>
> -peter



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