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[Leif Johansson <leifj AT sunet.se>]

On 2021-11-17 20:16, Valeriu Vraciu wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Please help us understand and act the best possible way in the following 
> matter, maybe there are/were similar cases in other federations:
> 
> EduGain is a service supported by GEANT, gathering identity federations 
> established mainly by NRENs, so a reasonable conclusion is that beneficiary 
> IdP institutions are members of NRENs or have some
> sort of relation with NREN. Please correct me if it is a wrong assumption.

Yeah mostly, although in some countries the NREN remit extend a bit beyond 
"traditional"
higher education to include related govt agencies, k12 etc.

> 
> We have a request to join eduGain as an IdP from an accredited by the 
> Ministry of Education private university, with which we did not have any 
> relation (until this request). They are not connected to
> our network and do not use any service from us, so first reaction seems to 
> be a no go. Any information regarding how other federations deal with such 
> cases can help us to decide further.
> Our policy does not cover this case, maybe an update will be worth too.
> 

In Sunet we would probably take a similar approach: the SWAMID federation is 
part of
the NREN service infra and as such requires that the customer is connected to 
the
network. I would not go as far as saying that there would *never* be a case 
when we
might bend that rule... but that would then probably be a decision at the 
board level
in our case.

As always ymwv, hope this helps.

        Cheers Leif