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- From: Stefan Winter <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>
- To: Paul Menzel <pmenzel AT molgen.mpg.de>, cat-users AT lists.geant.org
- Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?
- Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:52:45 +0200
Hello!
Thanks for your comments. Most of them are indeed something to improve upon.
FWIW, we are looking at a major redesign of the software for its next major release 3.0, so these suggestions come at a good time. FYI: these changes might easily end in a design like: end users are supposed to exclusively interact with native apps on OSes, with an embedded institution search; and do not interact with the website at all. This approach would make a good part of your suggestions not applicable any more, by design.
We are also always looking for developers that would participate in the development effort. If you are interested in getting involved beyond UX reports, please let us know...
Now, at least for two points I have a concrete immediate response:
> 4. Due to the variety of Android versions, there are always users with phones where the procedure does not work, and need help from the IT staff.
That's a universal truth in Android. Since we cannot make the variety of Android versions stop to exist: yes, that's how it is. There is still a reason for existence of the IT helpdesk. Nothing we can do in CAT can change that fact of life.
> 10. My institute name is spelled differently in German and English, so sometimes it’s not found in the apps. Sometimes it’s not found at all.
Multi-lingual support is built into CAT. In the organisation settings, you can add multiple variants of your institution name, and tag them with multiple languages. Your institution can then be found by typing any one of the variants.
Greetings,
Stefan Winter
On 14.07.23 15:31, Paul Menzel (via cat-users Mailing List) wrote:
Dear colleagues,
Due to the DFN PKI abandonment, my organization’s Radius server certificate expired and needed to be replaced. (We started to use our own Eduroam CA [1].) Therefore, all user devices needed to be updated.
Unfortunately, it wasn’t smooth sailing in several cases. The institute specific cat.eduroam.org URL for our institute [2] is shared with the users, but my expectation, that the page contains all necessary information, is not met, and additional documentation in different languages has to be written. My institute instructions are at the end.
If my expectation is not unreasonable, I see the following pain points with the Web page.
1. The wording is confusing. For Android users it’s not clear, they need to install the “app” first. The small infobox is often overlooked.
2. The instructions on the Web page also sound like, you get the program from the Web page, but it’s only a configuration file.
Laden Sie Ihr Installationsprogramm herunter für Chrome OS
Laden Sie Ihr Installationsprogramm herunter für Apple Gerät
Laden Sie Ihr Installationsprogramm herunter für Android 8 und höher
The wording is confusing, as it’s a configuration file for the first two, and for Android users seem to have to install an App from the app store first, which is only shown in the infobox.
3. Looking at the information/details, there is no difference in the description (i symbol) of the two Android options.
> Android 8 und höher
> Dies ist eine generische Konfigurationsdatei im IETF EAP Metadata -00 XML Format.
> Android 4.3 bis 7
> Dies ist eine generische Konfigurationsdatei im IETF EAP Metadata -00 XML Format.
4. Due to the variety of Android versions, there are always users with phones where the procedure does not work, and need help from the IT staff.
5. The information is hidden behind buttons, when clicked on opening a popup, which often contains only little text. This information should be directly and more prominently visible.
6. The download URL for files is not visible, hovering over the buttons.
7. Back and forward buttons do not work, when switching the operating system, as it’s not separate pages.
8. The Web site does not offer to just show the configuration and to download the certificate for manual use.
9. The Web site is not responsive, and therefore looks bad on a mobile device.
10. My institute name is spelled differently in German and English, so sometimes it’s not found in the apps. Sometimes it’s not found at all.
11. Accessing the page 1.86 MB are transferred (1.17 MB for jquery.js). It takes over 500 ms to load.
12. According to PageSpeed Insights, it’s not fully accessible [3][4].
As every second saved in setup time saves the user and the support staff time, for this many Eduroam users (millions?), it would be really great, if a new (static) Web site could be created.
Kind regards,
Paul
PS: Why is a script for Linux created instead of extending NetworkManager to support a configuration file? Users should not have to run random unverifiable scripts from the internet. I created a ticket for NetworkManager for ONC support [5].
[1]: https://github.com/buczek/eduroam-ca/
[2]: https://cat.eduroam.org/?idp=5807
[3]: https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-cat-eduroam-org/0hp5z32jx6?form_factor=mobile
[4]: https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-cat-eduroam-org/0hp5z32jx6?form_factor=desktop
[5]: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/issues/1348
"No support for Open Network Configuration (ONC) configuration files (#1348)"
PPS: Our instructions in the intranet (also translated to German):
for Android:
For Android 8 and newer: Install the geteduroam-App from the Google Play store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.eduroam.geteduroam)
For Android 7 and older: Install the eduroam CAT-App from the Google Play store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.ac.swansea.eduroamcat)
Use the eduroam CAT (Configuration Assistent Tool) at https://cat.eduroam.org/?idp=5807
Enter your username according to user AT molgen.mpg.de and your password (ideally set at the start of the setup)
for iOS (iPhones and iPads):
On iPhones and iPads, make sure to use the Safari browser (not Chrome). You should have installed at least iOS 12.1.1
Use the eduroam CAT (Configuration Assistent Tool) at https://cat.eduroam.org/?idp=5807
After installing the profile from the CAT-tool, please remove any existing WLAN eduroam (“Forget This Network”) and then activate the downloaded profile via Settings > General > Profiles & Device Management.
In newer version of iOS you can find the profiles via Settings > General > VPN & Device Management.
If you are asked for credentials use your username acording to user AT molgen.mpg.de and your password (ideally set at the start of the setup)
for GNU/Linux:
Use the eduroam CAT (Configuration Assistent Tool) at https://cat.eduroam.org/?idp=5807
You might need to execute the file from the command line. Open a terminal, enter `python ` (with space at the end), and drag the file into the terminal. Then, press the enter key.
If you are asked for credentials use your username acording to user AT molgen.mpg.de and your password (ideally set at the start of the setup)
for Windows / macOS:
Use the eduroam CAT (Configuration Assistent Tool) at https://cat.eduroam.org/?idp=5807
If you are asked for credentials use your username according to user AT molgen.mpg.de and your password (ideally set at the start of the setup)
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- [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Paul Menzel, 07/14/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Daniele Albrizio, 07/17/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Stefan Winter, 07/18/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Paul Menzel, 07/18/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] [External] Re: Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Hunter Fuller, 07/18/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] [External] Re: Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Tomasz Wolniewicz, 07/18/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Paul Menzel, 07/24/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] [External] Re: Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Tomasz Wolniewicz, 07/18/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Daniele Albrizio, 07/25/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Tomasz Wolniewicz, 07/18/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Paul Menzel, 07/24/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] [External] Re: Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Hunter Fuller, 07/24/2023
- Re: [[cat-users]] [External] Re: Redesign cat.eduroam.org to solve bad user experience?, Stefan Winter, 07/25/2023
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