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[Stefan Winter <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>]

Hi,

> I would also like to add appreciation for CAT. If the testing continues 
> positively it's likely to save us thousands.
> 
> Thanks all for the info regarding the lowering of SSID priority with OSX. 
> Is that also the case for iOS as this uses profiles too?

Thanks for the compliments. :-)

Yes, the same is true for iOS.

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

> 
> Cheers,
> Andi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Andersen 
> [mailto:than AT itu.dk]
>  
> Sent: 18 December 2015 08:49
> To: Stefan Winter 
> <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>;
>  
> cat-users AT lists.geant.org
> Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Remove/Disable SSID
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> If my mail came off as if I’m unhappy with CAT, I have not made myself 
> clear :) We appreciate how CAT works and it have saved our organisation for 
> hundreds and hundreds of support hours.
> 
> My objective with the email was just to clarify for others that they should 
> not expect CAT to delete SSID’s from OS X, since that is impossible - but 
> it will deactivate instead.
> 
> However, we would appreciate the same feature for linux if possible. On 
> android I dont have the same need as 95% of our users already have 3G/LTE 
> which they use to download CAT. So no need to delete SSID here.
> 
> 
> Br,
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> On 18/12/15 08:24, "Stefan Winter" 
> <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>>> To elaborate a bit, afaik on OS X the CAT uses profiles, where we use 
>>> an actual program on windows.
>>> This means that on OS X you cannot delete the SSID, but what it will 
>>> do, is reconfigure it so it will get to the bottom of the list and 
>>> for what i can see in the profile, it says auto join to false as 
>>> shown below with our guest SSID.
>>
>> Yes. This is the best Apple lets you do, and the code was written to 
>> take the device config that far.
>>
>> It is also the reason why the admin UI calls the feature
>> Remove/**DISABLE** SSID :-)
>>
>> It seems to become more and more difficult to manage "alien" networks.
>>
>> For example, on Android M, an app can only remove an SSID if it was 
>> also the one who created it (how the system keeps track of who did 
>> what, I don't know).
>>
>> There are good intentions behind this very probably. It is supposed to 
>> prevent "network wars" where different WISPs would generously delete 
>> the competitor's network while installing their own.
>>
>> It does make the life of people with an onboarding SSID more difficult 
>> though.
>>
>> Please don't blame the CAT - unless you find that we are doing less 
>> than we could. In that case, I'm happy to implement the 
>> whatever-the-better-way-is.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Stefan Winter
>>
>>> This also means that a computer that has never been on the wifi you 
>>> want to remove, will actually have it configured after using CAT – 
>>> though unable to connect to it.
>>>
>>> I will try on older OS X also to see it we also have problems on those.
>>>
>>> <key>AutoJoin</key>
>>> <false/>
>>> <key>EncryptionType</key>
>>> <string>None</string>
>>> <key>HIDDEN_NETWORK</key>
>>> <false/>
>>> <key>IsHotspot</key>
>>> <false/>
>>> <key>PayloadDescription</key>
>>> <string>This SSID should not be used after bootstrapping 
>>> eduroam</string> <key>PayloadDisplayName</key> <string>Disabled WiFi 
>>> network</string> <key>PayloadIdentifier</key> 
>>> <string>org.1x-config.eduroam.dk.it_university_of_copenhagen.all_user
>>> s.en_GB.wifi.disabled.0</string>
>>> <key>PayloadType</key>
>>> <string>com.apple.wifi.managed</string>
>>> <key>PayloadUUID</key>
>>> <string>b7f77ada-28af-64a7-82bd-37951c448fec</string>
>>> <key>PayloadVersion</key>
>>> <real>1</real><key>ProxyType</key>
>>> <string>Auto</string><key>SSID_STR</key>
>>> <string>ITU-guest</string>
>>>
>>> Br,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> From: Thomas Andersen 
>>> <than AT itu.dk
>>>  
>>> <mailto:than AT itu.dk>>
>>> Reply-To: Thomas Andersen 
>>> <than AT itu.dk
>>>  
>>> <mailto:than AT itu.dk>>
>>> Date: Thursday 17 December 2015 at 16:47
>>> To: 
>>> "cat-users AT lists.geant.org
>>>  
>>> <mailto:cat-users AT lists.geant.org>"
>>> <cat-users AT lists.geant.org
>>>  
>>> <mailto:cat-users AT lists.geant.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Remove/Disable SSID
>>>
>>> On El capitan, it reconfigure the SSID I want to remove, and make it 
>>> go to the bottom of the priority.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> Sent from my Cyanogen phone
>>>
>>> Den 17/12/2015 16.44 skrev 
>>> philipp.tobler AT id.unibe.ch
>>> <mailto:philipp.tobler AT id.unibe.ch>:
>>>
>>>     I just tested it on OSX Yosemite (10.10.5). Doesn’t work either -
>>>     the profile says «Deaktiviertes WLAN Netzwerk», but our public
>>>     network stays in the list of preferred wireless networks and after
>>>     switching off and on the Wifi card, the computer even reconnected to
>>>     it instead of eduroam. 
>>>
>>>     Cheers
>>>     Philipp
>>>
>>>>     Am 17.12.2015 um 15:49 schrieb Morris, Andi
>>>>     
>>>> <amorris AT cardiffmet.ac.uk
>>>>  
>>>> <mailto:amorris AT cardiffmet.ac.uk>>:
>>>>
>>>>     In my (admittedly limited) testing, I couldn’t get it to forget
>>>>     the network on Android, Linux or Windows. I haven’t tried a MacOS
>>>>     or iOS device yet.
>>>>      
>>>>     We’re having a bad time with devices remembering our setup
>>>>     network, and if I knew this did work reliably across all the main
>>>>     OSes I’d jump for joy.
>>>>      
>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>     Andi
>>>>      
>>>>     *From:* Thomas Andersen 
>>>> [mailto:than AT itu.dk]
>>>>  
>>>>     *Sent:* 17 December 2015 14:35
>>>>     *To:* 
>>>> cat-users AT lists.geant.org
>>>>  
>>>> <mailto:cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
>>>>     *Subject:* [[cat-users]] Remove/Disable SSID
>>>>      
>>>>     Hi,
>>>>      
>>>>     I’ve just recently seen this new option, which we love and will
>>>>     make deployment of eduroam a lot easier here.
>>>>     However, after testing, we found that it works as intended on
>>>>     Windows and Mac but not on linux (Ubuntu)
>>>>      
>>>>     In fact, the SSID we are trying to delete is not anywhere to find
>>>>     in the .sh file.
>>>>      
>>>>      
>>>>     --
>>>>     Med venlig hilsen / With best regards
>>>>     Thomas Andersen
>>>>      
>>>>     Systems and Network Administrator
>>>>      
>>>>     IT University of Copenhagen
>>>>     Rued Langgaards Vej 7
>>>>     2300 København S
>>>>      
>>>>     
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