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Re: [eduGAIN-discuss] isFederated Check Service now shows eduGAIN Coverage of federations


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  • From: Tom Scavo <trscavo AT internet2.edu>
  • To: Lukas Hämmerle <lukas.haemmerle AT switch.ch>
  • Cc: edugain-discuss AT lists.geant.org, refeds AT lists.refeds.org
  • Subject: Re: [eduGAIN-discuss] isFederated Check Service now shows eduGAIN Coverage of federations
  • Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 14:35:47 -0400
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Hi Lukas,

This is great! I can use this page to push for 100% adoption in InCommon.

Some comments/suggestions:

- The phrase "Organisations/Identity Providers" is not relevant to
InCommon since orgs are allowed to have multiple IdPs. In any case,
the two are not equivalent. Historically, conflating the two has led
to widespread misuse of md:OrganizationDisplayName.

- Can you add a column that gives the number of IdPs exported to
eduGAIN (for comparison)?

- Can you add a row of totals at the bottom?

If the answer is yes to the latter two questions, you can remove the
"eduGAIN" row from the table.

Thanks for making this resource available!

Tom


On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:42 AM, Lukas Hämmerle
<lukas.haemmerle AT switch.ch> wrote:
> I assume that all of us know the eduGAIN map on
> https://technical.edugain.org/status
>
>
> Why is the eduGAIN map misleading?
> ----------------------------------
> It shows which identity federations are already or soon participating in
> eduGAIN. However, this map does not really make a statement about how
> many of a federation's entity are already connected to eduGAIN. This is
> because for many federations, only a subset of their entities have
> opted-in to eduGAIN. So, if a country or federation is green, it doesn't
> necessarily mean that for example all of its universities are connected
> to eduGAIN.
>
>
> Will the "real" eduGAIN coverage please stand up
> ------------------------------------------------
> If you are interested in the *real eduGAIN coverage* of a federation,
> you might want to have a look at the isFederated Check Service that
> recently was extended by a feature to also show the coverage (how many
> IdPs of that federation are also in eduGAIN).
>
> The direct link to that page is:
> https://technical.edugain.org/isFederatedCheck/Federations/
>
> The eduGAIN coverage is of course also available via the REST/JSON API.
>
>
> Nothing is prefect :-)
> ----------------------
> The feature to show the eduGAIN coverage is new and it is not be 100%
> accurate for all federations, still it's certainly more accurate than
> the eduGAIN map alone when it comes to judge how many organisations -
> and their users - of a federation are eduGAIN-ready and can actually
> participate in eduGAIN.
>
> Bug reports, suggestions and feedback are still welcome.
>
>
> And what is the isFederated Check again doing?
> ----------------------------------------------
> The main purpose of the eduGAIN isFederated Check Service (EIFCS) is to
> answer the question "how many organisations represented by these email
> addresses/domain names are already federated and in eduGAIN". Basically,
> the EIFCS checks if a domain name shows up in metadata of one of the
> (self-asserted) production federations worldwide as well as in eduGAIN.
> The EIFCS is a great tool to quickly determine how many users for
> example of a research community, have federated and eduGAIN-enabled
> accounts.
>
> The EIFCS was originally on wiki.edugain.org but was recently moved to
> technical.edugain.org thanks to the eduGAIN OT.
>
>
> Best Regards
> Lukas
>
>
> --
> SWITCH
> Lukas Hämmerle, Central Solutions
> GÉANT Project Task Leader of
> eduGAIN Service Development - Research and Service Providers
> Werdstrasse 2, P.O. Box, 8021 Zurich, Switzerland
> phone +41 44 268 15 05, direct +41 44 268 15 64
> lukas.haemmerle AT switch.ch, http://www.switch.ch



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