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[Stefan Winter <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>]

Hello,

> I know this will come across as preachy butI was referring to the
> message on the following page where the download takes place.  The
> English version needs some editing.  If I had access to that text, I
> would make the following adjustments.  If it has to be global, then the
> Vassar specifics would need to be more generic (e.g., mention of user
> certificates would need to be added back and servicedesk would change to
> helpdesk....):

That message is indeed generic and global to the system.

In terms of grammar, there are a number of tradeoffs to make as some
institution naming constructs fit better than others.

In your example of Vassar College, the infix greeting reads admittedly a
bit better. But when you start to think of names like a hypothetical
"The Brainpool University", the grammer would turn into:

"Dear The Brainpool University user,"

while our current grammar makes it

"Dear user from The Brainpool University"

which reads at least less incorrect than the previous one.

Unfortunately, since the text is auto-generated, it is very hard to
write code which truly understands English grammar and flips between
infix and postfix as needed.

The other change, in terms of "Welcome aboard" vs. "Welcome to" is not a
question of grammar IMHO, but of taste/style.

Since the tools we produce are usually referred to as "on-boarding"
tools, I always felt it's natural to say that after you have been
on-boarded, you are - aboard?

Also for the "warmly welcome" vs. "happy to have you join" and a few
minor other things changed - again a question of style.

I've changed the sentence "Your download will..." in both branch and
trunk to become two separate sentences.

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

> 
> 
> This:
> 
> *Welcome aboard the eduroam user community!*
> 
> Your download will start shortly, in case of problems with the automatic
> download please use this direct link
> <https://cat.eduroam.org/user/API.php?action=downloadInstaller&lang=en&id=apple_el_cap&profile=2533>.
> 
> 
> Dear user from Vassar College,
> 
> we would like to warmly welcome you among the several million users of
> eduroam! From now on, you will be able to use internet access resources
> on thousands of universities, research centres and other places all over
> the globe. All of this completely free of charge!
> 
> Now that you have downloaded and installed a client configurator, all
> you need to do is find an eduroam hotspot in your vicinity and enter
> your user credentials (this is our fancy name for 'username and
> password' or 'personal certificate') - and be online!
> 
> Should you have any problems using this service, please always contact
> the servicedesk of Vassar College. They will diagnose the problem and
> help you out. You can reach them via the means shown above.
> 
> 
> Becomes:
> 
> 
> *Welcome to the eduroam user community!*
> 
> Your download will start shortly.  In case of problems with the
> automatic download, please use this direct link
> <https://cat.eduroam.org/user/API.php?action=downloadInstaller&lang=en&id=apple_el_cap&profile=2533>.
> 
> 
> Dear Vassar College user,
> 
> We are happy to have you join the millions users of eduroam! From now
> on, you will be able to use internet resources from thousands of
> universities, research centers and other places all over the globe --
> all completely free of charge!
> 
> Now that you have downloaded and installed a client configurator, all
> you need to do is find an eduroam hotspot in your vicinity and enter
> your user credentials 
> (username AT vassar.edu
>  
> <mailto:username AT vassar.edu>
> and password) to be online!
> 
> Should you have any problems using this service, please contact the
> Vassar College helpdesk. They will diagnose the problem and help you.
> You can reach them at address shown above.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> David
> 
> 
> David Susman
> Assoc. Director of Networks and Systems and Webmanager
> Computing and Information Services -- box 13
> Vassar College
> 
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Thomas Andersen 
> <than AT itu.dk
> <mailto:than AT itu.dk>>
>  wrote:
> 
>     Hi David,____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     It is possible to add some text.____
> 
>     As you can see here when you click download, a confirmation box will
>     appear which is free text area.____
> 
>     https://cat.eduroam.org/?idp=596&profile=994____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Br,____
> 
>     Thomas____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     *From: *David Susman 
> <dasusman AT vassar.edu
>  
> <mailto:dasusman AT vassar.edu>>
>     *Reply-To: *David Susman 
> <dasusman AT vassar.edu
>     
> <mailto:dasusman AT vassar.edu>>
>     *Date: *Tuesday 14 June 2016 at 15:28
>     *To: 
> *"cat-users AT lists.geant.org
>  
> <mailto:cat-users AT lists.geant.org>"
>     
> <cat-users AT lists.geant.org
>  
> <mailto:cat-users AT lists.geant.org>>
>     *Subject: *[[cat-users]] Can we update the text on the eduroam CAT
>     download page?____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     The text on the download page (the one that starts "Welcome aboard
>     the eduroam user community!") has several grammatical issues I would
>     like to address.  I would also like to add some more details on
>     usage (e.g., that username includes @domain).  It appears the blurb
>     is global for all institutions.  Am I overlooking something and if
>     not, can this note be considered a feature request to allow
>     institutions to edit the text on the download page?____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     Thanks,____
> 
>     David
>     ____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     David Susman____
> 
>     Assoc. Director of Networks and Systems and Webmanager____
> 
>     Computing and Information Services -- box 13____
> 
>     Vassar College____
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Stefan WINTER
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de la Recherche
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