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[Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>]

Hi Zenon,

W dniu 2016-04-05 o 13:21, Zenon Mousmoulas pisze:
> I wonder if people are aware that in CAT itself you can set additional
>> hints which are displayed in the GUI  before the download is started.
>> For NCU this hint says "For eduroam use the same username and password
>> as for USOS"  (USOS is our study support system).
>> Perhaps, if people used this more then the problem would go away?
>
> Yes, but that option is "hidden" under device-specific or
> eap-type-specific options. You also need to set it per language. And
> this comes at a different point in time, not when the user is prompted
> to enter their username. Which prompts for a different question: Do
> the android app users get to see this text when they pick a profile
> from within the helper app?
It is rather natural that this setting can be done in many languages (of
course you can limit yourself to the default setting if you only need
one). Indeed it is fairly hidden but CAT is just becoming too complex to
have everything completely in the open, but perhaps we should think of a
way to make such hidden features known to admins.

About Android users - no unfortunately this message is not saved in the
profile itself, it is shown to the user in the CAT WEB interface before
the download of the profile. If the profile is downloaded directly from
the Android then this message will not be shown either. To  enable this
I need to modify the API, but this is absolutely natural that this is
required for the future.

>
> In any case, I am not a UX person, so if this is how/when you think
> users should get prompted, I wouldn't object to that either. I
> understand that is a more flexible option, but it still feels
> different from the sort of hint we are discussing.
I agree that this is a different hint, I just wanted to be sure that
people know it exists, as I believe id does serve the same purpose and I
wondered if people might think that this is sufficient.

Tomasz

>
>>> As for realms: On the CAT profile an exact (not a suffix nor a
>>> wildcard) realm is configured so far, as that is used for
>>> reach-ability checks (the only visible use AFAIK). If the semantics
>>> were to change, I would prefer itif CAT would support a list of realms
>>> associated with a profile, as I think we are trying to do away with
>>> suffixes and wildcards in general (in an eduroam db context). In such
>>> a case the label/descriptive text should say something like @<realm>
>>> where <realm> can be one of: ...
>> The realm is used to set the outer identity for methods that use one.
>> If you do not set the realm then the anonymous identity option is not
>> available. Thus is the *main* use of the realm, reachability tests are
>> just an ad-on utility.  This is why we cannot have a list of realms or
>> wildcards there. If I correctly understand your need for lists or
>> wildcards this would be for sanity testing of user input, I would
>> consider this to be an overkill. For sanity testing I would for suffix
>> testing only based on the current realm setting, with an option to turn
>> this all altogether.
>
> You are right, I totally missed that. The last proposal about sanity
> checking sounds good as well.
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