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  • From: Zenon Mousmoulas <zmousm AT noc.grnet.gr>
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  • Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Feature request for login name
  • Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 12:59:58 +0300
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Hi Tomasz,

brief answers to your questions:

I see your point about inner identity. Making this configurable as an on/off option next to anonymity support (general profile properties) would be OK. I wouldn't even care if it defaults to enabled, as long as the option is there. It would be fine to just suggest (in a label next to the actual text input) something like username@realm-configured-on-profile. No pre-fill or enforcement, I believe we can revisit this later if necessary.
As for realms: On the CAT profile an exact (not a suffix nor a wildcard) realm is configured so far, as that is used for reach-ability checks (the only visible use AFAIK). If the semantics were to change, I would prefer itif CAT would support a list of realms associated with a profile, as I think we are trying to do away with suffixes and wildcards in general (in an eduroam db context). In such a case the label/descriptive text should say something like @<realm> where <realm> can be one of: ...

Cheers,
Z.

On 2016-04-05 12:22, Tomasz Wolniewicz wrote:
Hi,
Obviously this has been requested several times, so probably it is
time that we should do something about it, at least in installers where
we can control things.

There are two sides to this problem.
The first is notification on incorrect username input. This one probably
is not really controversial, but things need to be specified, for one -
do we have cases where the username *should* be provided without the
realm (this is just the inner identity, so the realm is not necessarily
required). Perhaps we should need another option (defaulting to set)
which would be "require realm for inner identity"?
How should the notification be done? Should we just react when no realm
is given or additionally in the case when a realm is set in the CAT
profile should we also require that the username *ends* with the
provided realm? I would be against an exact match of the realm as people
may have subrealms which are perfectly valid.


The second side is pre-filling the username field with something.
I do not expect that people who *do not want* such a feature cared to
speak up so far, but I can imagine that such people may exist, as I
would be one of them. In the case of my university people are used to
providing usernames with realms also in WEB applications, and besides we
need to support several subrealms so providing a partially filled field
with a possibly wrong value, would likely cause confusion. Therefore
such behaviour of the installers would need to be optional (hence yet
another option to master by the admins).
Assuming that we go ahead with such an option, I would like to discuss
how this can be implemented.
In the case of Windows installer we now have:
Username: <input field>

How should the <input field> be prefilled? Should it be:
1. "@my.realm"
2. "user AT my.realm"
3. "some_descriptive_text AT my.realm"

Any opinion very welcome.

Tomasz





W dniu 2016-04-05 o 08:02, Patrik Holmqvist pisze:
That is something we would like as well.

Regards Patrik

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Hi,

I have also asked recently whether it would be possible for CAT installers to auto-fill, suggest or optionally enforce the realm configured on the profile into the username input, even if only on some platforms; this is by far the most common end-user issue. Alan Buxey suggested it has also been requested before that.

Cheers,
Z.

On 2016-04-04 15:43, Thomas Andersen wrote:
Hi,

Would it be possible to configure the installer in a way that users
are either forced to enter an email address as username or that the
installer simply adds domain to the username itself?

Br,
Thomas

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