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Re: [cat-users] CAT website design and Swedish translation?


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  • From: Metselaar Jasper <jasper.metselaar AT sundsvall.se>
  • To: Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>, "A.L.M.Buxey AT lboro.ac.uk" <A.L.M.Buxey AT lboro.ac.uk>
  • Cc: "cat-users AT geant.net" <cat-users AT geant.net>
  • Subject: Re: [cat-users] CAT website design and Swedish translation?
  • Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 20:21:09 +0000
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  • List-id: "The mailing list for users of the eduroam Configuration Assistant Tool \(CAT\)" <cat-users.geant.net>

This discussion has become an interesting one. :-)

The best solution, in my humble opinion, would be a central CAT site.
But the main reason that other configuration sites pop up is because the
design of the official site is not very intuitive and confusing for end
users. Especially the mobile version is confusing and I have heard quite a
few users saying that they would not trust that site.
My guess is that, if the official CAT site would be more attractive, with a
easy to use (end user)interface, there wouldn't be a need for most of the
"local" implementations.

Personally I don't think there are many organizations/NROs that want to
create, host or maintain a CAT site just because they can. They probably
started their own CAT site because the official CAT site doesn't meet their
needs.

/Jasper

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Tomasz Wolniewicz
[mailto:twoln AT umk.pl]

Skickat: den 4 november 2015 20:12
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A.L.M.Buxey AT lboro.ac.uk
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Ämne: Re: [cat-users] CAT website design and Swedish translation?

Hi Alan,

W dniu 04.11.2015 o 19:38,
A.L.M.Buxey AT lboro.ac.uk
pisze:
> so, how about this - each NRO can host such an interface but they are
> ONLY able to present their orgs in the list ?
Yes but what about foreign visitors, which place will they go? Will it be
obvious that they should go to their country federation?
Are we not loosing the functionality of a single full IdP listing?

I see not problem in completely separating the CAT back-end and the user
front-end. The current approach already implements this to a very large
extent. Refactoring the code so that you would have a separate installation
for the front-end and for the back-end would not be a big job.

As the CAT developer I am quite happy with any new challenge, and
distributed, configurable user interface would be just that, but as the
eduroam advocate I am worried about our unity. What I cannot comprehend is
why we cannot agree that as we promote the single eduroam as an international
cooperation symbol, we cannot agree on using a single configuration site. And
what next, are we going to have a separate Android eduroamCAT for each
federation? By separating the access sites we will also lose the common place
where user come with their ideas, be it a complaint about the UI being ugly
:).


Tomasz

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