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[Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>]

I have had a local discussion here and another argument popped up - security and trust. With a local federation site like that of yours, you should really explain to your users why you are distributing installers which are signed by some obscure GEANT org and why they should trust it. In the other direction, I would not want to have Polish users go to a "random" Norwegian site and pick up an installer for their Polish university, just as you would probably not like the reverse. However now think of a guest from Poland who visits a Norwegian university and only then realises that eduroam would be useful. Local  colleagues will most likely send him to the Norwegian eduroam site where he will not find his Polish institution and will need to be sent to the Polish site or the central one.

The more I think about it the more I am convinced that multiple installations are wrong for eduroam and we should avoid them.
You could then ask why did I create the UserAPI then. Well, mainly to allow for creation of new ways of interfacing, take the Android eduroamCAT as an example or creating per institution links directly to CAT downloads.

Of course we cannot forbid anything, but we might want to start a larger discussion on a general list not really about the looks of the interface, but about the principles.
Tomasz

W dniu 04.11.2015 o 16:48, Jørn Åne pisze:

I agree that eduroam.no/connect is missing some functionality that is available in CAT. We’ve started with functionality we think is important for our (Norwegian) end-users, but decided not to limit the website to Norway in case someone else thinks the website is useful. The current design is based on the official uninett style [1], so if we’re to take this international, a redesign must be done anyway.

Maybe we should have a meeting? There’s probably too much to discuss for eduroam SG, so I think a separate meeting might be a good idea.

I’ll discuss this in more detail tomorrow with Tom.

[1] https://github.com/andreassolberg/uninett-bootstrap-theme

4. nov. 2015 kl. 16.20 skrev Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>:

Hi,   while I do not want to defend the current look of the CAT website, you should realise that it has a lot of functionality that  https://eduroam.no/connect/ does not have. Adding this functionality could have implications on the overall look. It could be that with the simplified design you will not find space where you want to display these extra things. We did not implement this functionality for no reason, it came form real needs and expectations. When you serve such a large community such requirements are numerous. For instance, CAT can do institution pre-selection, which you have asked for, like: https://cat.eduroam.org/?idp=1 or even profile preselection like https://cat.eduroam.org/?idp=1&profile="2 CAT can do web redirects, can pop up pre-download messages, can display institution logos, will tell you where to seek support in your institution,  supports multiple languages, supports geolocation and much more.  So while I strongly support a change, this change should preserve the things that we now have. Cheers Tomasz W dniu 2015-11-04 o 16:00, Metselaar Jasper pisze:

Hi Tom!

 

That site looks really nice, clear and appealing design. It would be very nice if the CAT website could look like that one. 
Would it be possible for Eduroam.orf/Géant/the CAT-administrators use this design in case they are interested?   A quick question: is it possible to link to it using an anchor tag, so that it opens with a list of Swedish institutions. Something like https://eduroam.no/connect/#Sweden? Or even better, but probably too much to ask:  https://eduroam.no/connect/#MyInstitute so that a certain Institute is preselected.     Med vänlig hälsning   Jasper Metselaar IT Drifttekniker, Servicecenter IT
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Från: Tom Ivar Myren [mailto:tom.myren AT uninett.no]  Skickat: den 4 november 2015 11:57
Till: Metselaar Jasper
Kopia: Stefan Winter; cat-users AT geant.net; Jørn de Jong
Ämne: Re: [cat-users] CAT website design and Swedish translation?

  Hi Jasper, 

You can check out https://eduroam.no/connect/ 

Just a different end-user interface intended for Norway, but you will find all profiles there. 

Admins must use cat.eduroam.org 

 

 

Best regards,
Tom Ivar Myren 

Senior Advisor

UNINETT AS - 7465 Trondheim, tlf. 73 55 79 00 - fax 73 55 79 01 
Direkte innvalg 73 55 79 14 - mobil 92600199 
http://www.uninett.no

 

On 26 Oct 2015, at 15:38, Metselaar Jasper <jasper.metselaar AT sundsvall.se> wrote:

 

Hi Stefan!
Unfortunately I am not a design guru either. :)
Just an idea, isn't there an institution out there that has courses in (web)design and that has some students that could redesign the site as a study case/project?
I just registered myself at the Transiflex site in order to help with translations (Swedish and Dutch). 
//Jasper

-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Stefan Winter [mailto:stefan.winter AT restena.lu]  Skickat: den 26 oktober 2015 14:10 Till: Metselaar Jasper; cat-users AT geant.net Ämne: Re: [cat-users] CAT website design and Swedish translation?

Hello,

CAT is very useful for us, but the design/user interface of the CAT  pages could use some improvement, especially the mobile version of the  site. Are there plans to improve the web design/User Interface?

Our current developer base is more on the technical level, not design gurus :-)
Of course we also realise that UI improvements are possible.

This basically needs a UI-savvy volunteer to help out. Please let us know if you are able to contribute (HTML/_javascript_/...) code...

Secondly we are wondering if there are any plans to add a Swedish  translation of the CAT tool.
There is currently a partial Swedish translation on our translation system (49% completion, most of the end-user visible parts are done).
Due to its sub-optimal completion level, it was not included in any release yet.
Again, we need Swedish native speaker volunteers to complete the translation work. Translation can be done on a web interface of the company "Transifex" (https://www.transifex.com/eduroam_devel/cat/language/sv/ ).
Again, please do let us know if you want to volunteer for the translation.

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

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