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- From: Simon Leinen <>
- To: Tim Chown <>
- Cc: <>, <>, <>
- Subject: Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features
- Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 14:10:53 +0100
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Tim Chown writes:
> The question with multicast of course comes back to use cases.
> It’s fantastic the bier support is now there, but what use cases might
> we apply it to for the R&E domain? There’s not exactly a lot of
> content out there. There’s been a recent push in the IETF to
> deprecate inter-domain traditional ASM (which I was a draft author on)
Right, that came out last August as RFC 8815.
> and to promote AMT (“multicast to the grandma”), but less so with bier
> (so far!). Are there use cases we could look at?
This GÉANT/EUMETSAT collaboration famously uses multicast:
https://impact.geant.org/portfolio/eumetsat/
This type of use cases should be supported by BIER, provided we can
bring this to the end sites. As for the backbone, it could be a nice
application for a RARE/Tofino-based overlay - we could remove the burden
of multicast routing from the backbone routers if that's desired.
(Personally I don't think multicast is such a great fit for content
distribution, and would rather look into (federated) CDN/storage
services operated by the NREN community, but there doesn't seem to be
enough collective willingness to build "cloud-like" infrastructure, so
I'll shut up.)
(And network coding/COINRG might be another area to look into for these
kinds of "data flooding" applications - distribute different parts of
information over different links in the topology and reconstruct the
original bits at the ends.)
Cheers,
--
Simon.
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, (continued)
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/04/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, Tim Chown, 02/05/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/05/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, Tim Chown, 02/05/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/05/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/06/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, Frédéric LOUI, 02/06/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/07/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, Tim Chown, 02/08/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/08/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, Simon Leinen, 02/08/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/08/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, Tim Chown, 02/10/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/10/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features, mc36, 02/04/2021
- Re: [gn4-3-wp6-t1-wb-RARE] new features --- experimenting, mc36, 02/03/2021
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