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Re: [rare-dev] [EANTC MPLS SDN Interop 2023] Temporary Ban from on-site participation for Csaba Mate
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- From: Simon Leinen <>
- To: Carsten Rossenhoevel <>, mc36 <>, "Natrajan Venkataraman" <>, Antoni Przygienda <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>, Reshma Das <>, "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <>, "Rafal Szmidt" <>
- Cc: "" <>, Gabriele Schrenk <>, Anjuli Meyer <>, Laura Sergi <>, Tareq Hellibia <>, "" <>
- Subject: Re: [rare-dev] [EANTC MPLS SDN Interop 2023] Temporary Ban from on-site participation for Csaba Mate
- Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:45:07 +0000
- Accept-language: en-CH, en-US
"mc36" here....
i see nothing at http://album.nop.hu/
you?
thanks,
cs
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@from ( == ) here
Apologies for the accidental publication of the photos from the EANTC event.
They are now hidden from view, and will remain so.
Thanks for your understanding,
--
Simon.
On 14.03.23, 10:00, "Carsten Rossenhoevel" <
<>> wrote:
Dear Csaba,
You shared the link to your photo album (http://album.nop.hu/
<http://album.nop.hu/> ) with a number
of mailing lists:
- BGP-CT/Seamless SR discussion group <
<>>
- <>
- <>
- <>
Can you please confirm that all recipients of these four mailing lists are
covered under our multi-vendor testing NDA? If there are recipients not
covered under NDA, I kindly ask you to limit access to pictures of our
whiteboards (showing test topologies with other vendor names) to those that
are covered under NDA (i.e. Kifu, Switch, Juniper).
Thank you, Carsten
-----Original Message-----
From: mc36 < <>>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 05:34
To: Carsten Rossenhoevel < <>>; Natrajan
Venkataraman
< <>>; Antoni Przygienda
< <>>; Krzysztof Szarkowicz
< <>>; Reshma Das
< <>>; Jeffrey (Zhaohui)
Zhang < <>>; Rafal Szmidt
< <>>;
BGP-CT/Seamless SR discussion group <
<>>;
<>;
<>; <>
Cc: <>; Simon
Leinen < <>>; Gabriele
Schrenk < <>>; Anjuli Meyer
< <>>; Laura Sergi
< <>>; Tareq Hellibia <
<>>
Subject: Re: [EANTC MPLS SDN Interop 2023] Temporary Ban from on-site
participation for Csaba Mate
On 3/14/23 00:50, Carsten Rossenhoevel wrote:
> Csaba,
>
> Are you sure it was a FIN connection close style?
yes but maybe you misunderstood my fin as rst right? :)
>
> Anyway, hope to see you in a different mood sometime somewhere.
i had way good time in berlin, see http://album.nop.hu/
<http://album.nop.hu/> ...
it auto-updates when i record a video and have my wireguard shitload working
on my cellphone :)
it'll rm -rf * when im back home to my flat.... i know im under your nda 2
times, once as hbone.hu once as mp.ls
thx 4 your understanding...
peace,
cs
>
> Your statement regarding the lack of "unfiltered Internet" (whatever that
> might be in the 2020s) could have been explained, and fixed, if only you
> had
> taken the effort to talk with us. Or did you try to raise a ticket using
> our doors as morse code input devices?
>
> Best regards, Carsten
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mc36 < <>>
> Sent: Monday, 13 March 2023 23:35
> To: Carsten Rossenhoevel < <>>; Natrajan
> Venkataraman
> < <>>; Antoni Przygienda
> < <>>; Krzysztof
> Szarkowicz < <>>;
> Reshma Das < <>>;
> Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang < <>>;
> Rafal Szmidt
> < <>>; BGP-CT/Seamless SR
> discussion group
> < <>>;
> <>;
> <>
> Cc: <>; Simon
> Leinen < <>>;
> Gabriele Schrenk < <>>; Anjuli Meyer
> < <>>; Laura
> Sergi < <>>; Tareq Hellibia
> < <>>
> Subject: Re: [EANTC MPLS SDN Interop 2023] Temporary Ban from on-site
> participation for Csaba Mate
>
> eantc.de;
> ack.
> fin.
> .
>
> famfo: seemingly you won't pet some real gear doing actual packet
> forwarding
> at line rate.... maybe next time...
>
> *@juniper: c u at next next ietf in prague...
>
> rare-dev: they dont have unfiltered&&fast internet in berlin except at the
> local university campus area
>
>
>
> On 3/13/23 14:58, Carsten Rossenhoevel wrote:
>> Dear Csaba,
>> Dear Kifu Team,
>>
>> Unfortunately, I had to take the decision to ban Csaba Mate from on-site
>> participation in the interop event due to unruly behavior. Throughout
>> this morning, already five EANTC
>> colleagues alerted me that his behavior has been unacceptable:
>>
>> * Shouting loudly at other vendor participants, especially in one case
>> to a female co-worker from another company almost harassing her
>> * Attacking our intern and his Apple laptop, smashing it closed forcibly
>> (other participants equipment should never be touched without consent)
>> * Intentionally smashing premises doors (kitchen door 180 degrees
>> opened, then forcefully slammed; same with main entrance glass door)
>> * Intentionally messing with lab equipment (hot aisle containment); when
>> I confronted him, Csaba told me that I shouldn t care because it s not
>> my equipment and then, when I
>> said that it indeed is, he told me not to worry because Kifu is
>> covered by insurance if he breaks it (btw I think no insurance pays for
>> willful destruction)
>> * Using strong language ( fucking ) repeatedly
>>
>> Generally, at EANTC we maintain a collaborative and non-violent workspace.
>> Csaba does not fit this place, obviously. Due to the many things that
>> happened within just a few hours,
>> I will not wait for a management review from Kifu before expelling him.
>>
>> The access card will be deactivated, and I, as EANTC executive manager,
>> ask
>> Csaba to refrain from trying to enter our premises. In German, we issue
>> an order to stay away
>> ( Hausverbot ). In case of a violation, we will call the police for
>> trespassing.
>>
>> Csaba may continue participation from remotely, using our collaboration
>> tools (VPN, Rocketchat, Wiki). This is under the expectation that Csaba
>> will refrain from harassing, strong
>> language, or otherwise uncooperative behavior. In case of any additional
>> issues, we will also ban Csaba from remote participation in the event.
>>
>> I am very sorry about this incident; it is the first time in 20 years that
>> a person behaves like this.
>>
>> Best regards, Carsten
>>
>> --
>>
>> Carsten Rossenh vel
>>
>> Managing Director, EANTC AG (European Advanced Networking Test Center)
>>
>> Salzufer 14, 10587 Berlin, Germany
>>
>> office +49.30.3180595-21, fax +49.30.3180595-10, mobile +49.177.2505721
>>
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>> <>>, https://www.eantc.de <https://www.eantc.de>
>> <https://www.eantc.de/> <https://www.eantc.de/>>
>>
>> Place of Business/Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Germany
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
- Re: [rare-dev] [EANTC MPLS SDN Interop 2023] Temporary Ban from on-site participation for Csaba Mate, mc36, 03/13/2023
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