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  • From: Carsten Rossenhoevel <>
  • To: mc36 <>, Natrajan Venkataraman <>, "Antoni Przygienda" <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>, Reshma Das <>, "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <>, Rafal Szmidt <>, "BGP-CT/Seamless SR discussion group" <>, "" <>, "" <>
  • Cc: "" <>, Simon Leinen <>, Gabriele Schrenk <>, Anjuli Meyer <>, Laura Sergi <>, Tareq Hellibia <>
  • Subject: RE: [rare-dev] [EANTC MPLS SDN Interop 2023] Temporary Ban from on-site participation for Csaba Mate
  • Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 23:50:50 +0000
  • Accept-language: de-DE, en-US

Csaba,

Are you sure it was a FIN connection close style? 😉

Anyway, hope to see you in a different mood sometime somewhere.

Your statement regarding the lack of "unfiltered Internet" (whatever that
might be in the 2020s) could have been explained, and fixed, if only you had
taken the effort to talk with us. Or did you try to raise a ticket using our
doors as morse code input devices?

Best regards, Carsten


-----Original Message-----
From: mc36 <>
Sent: Monday, 13 March 2023 23:35
To: Carsten Rossenhoevel <>; Natrajan Venkataraman
<>; Antoni Przygienda <>; Krzysztof Szarkowicz
<>; Reshma Das <>; Jeffrey
(Zhaohui) Zhang <>; Rafal Szmidt <>;
BGP-CT/Seamless SR discussion group <>;
;
Cc: ; Simon Leinen <>;
Gabriele Schrenk <>; Anjuli Meyer <>; Laura
Sergi <>; Tareq Hellibia <>
Subject: Re: [EANTC MPLS SDN Interop 2023] Temporary Ban from on-site
participation for Csaba Mate

eantc.de;
ack.
fin.
.

famfo: seemingly you won't pet some real gear doing actual packet forwarding
at line rate.... maybe next time...

*@juniper: c u at next next ietf in prague...

rare-dev: they dont have unfiltered&&fast internet in berlin except at the
local university campus area



On 3/13/23 14:58, Carsten Rossenhoevel wrote:
> Dear Csaba,
> Dear Kifu Team,
>
> Unfortunately, I had to take the decision to ban Csaba Mate from on-site
> participation in the interop event due to unruly behavior. Throughout
> this morning, already five EANTC
> colleagues alerted me that his behavior has been unacceptable:
>
> * Shouting loudly at other vendor participants, especially in one case to
> a female co-worker from another company almost harassing her
> * Attacking our intern and his Apple laptop, smashing it closed forcibly
> (other participants equipment should never be touched without consent)
> * Intentionally smashing premises doors (kitchen door 180 degrees opened,
> then forcefully slammed; same with main entrance glass door)
> * Intentionally messing with lab equipment (hot aisle containment); when
> I confronted him, Csaba told me that I shouldn t care because it s not
> my equipment and then, when I
> said that it indeed is, he told me not to worry because Kifu is covered
> by insurance if he breaks it (btw I think no insurance pays for willful
> destruction)
> * Using strong language ( fucking ) repeatedly
>
> Generally, at EANTC we maintain a collaborative and non-violent workspace.
> Csaba does not fit this place, obviously. Due to the many things that
> happened within just a few hours,
> I will not wait for a management review from Kifu before expelling him.
>
> The access card will be deactivated, and I, as EANTC executive manager, ask
> Csaba to refrain from trying to enter our premises. In German, we issue
> an order to stay away
> ( Hausverbot ). In case of a violation, we will call the police for
> trespassing.
>
> Csaba may continue participation from remotely, using our collaboration
> tools (VPN, Rocketchat, Wiki). This is under the expectation that Csaba
> will refrain from harassing, strong
> language, or otherwise uncooperative behavior. In case of any additional
> issues, we will also ban Csaba from remote participation in the event.
>
> I am very sorry about this incident; it is the first time in 20 years that
> a person behaves like this.
>
> Best regards, Carsten
>
> --
>
> Carsten Rossenh vel
>
> Managing Director, EANTC AG (European Advanced Networking Test Center)
>
> Salzufer 14, 10587 Berlin, Germany
>
> office +49.30.3180595-21, fax +49.30.3180595-10, mobile +49.177.2505721
>
> <>, https://www.eantc.de
> <https://www.eantc.de/>
>
> Place of Business/Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Germany
>
> Chairman/Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Herbert Almus
>
> Managing Directors/Vorstand: Carsten Rossenh vel, Gabriele Schrenk
>
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>
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>

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