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[Niels van Dijk <niels.vandijk AT surfnet.nl>]

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Hi Lukas,

very usefull tool!
Is the tool taking into account the hide-from-discovery flag
(https://refeds.org/category/hide-from-discovery)?
I think we might want to exclude these IdPs from the list, given that
these IdPs typically are not 'real production' IdPs


Cheers,
Niels





On 09-08-16 08:42, Lukas Hämmerle wrote:
> I assume that all of us know the eduGAIN map on 
> https://technical.edugain.org/status
> 
> 
> Why is the eduGAIN map misleading? 
> ---------------------------------- It shows which identity
> federations are already or soon participating in eduGAIN. However,
> this map does not really make a statement about how many of a
> federation's entity are already connected to eduGAIN. This is 
> because for many federations, only a subset of their entities have 
> opted-in to eduGAIN. So, if a country or federation is green, it
> doesn't necessarily mean that for example all of its universities
> are connected to eduGAIN.
> 
> 
> Will the "real" eduGAIN coverage please stand up 
> ------------------------------------------------ If you are
> interested in the *real eduGAIN coverage* of a federation, you
> might want to have a look at the isFederated Check Service that 
> recently was extended by a feature to also show the coverage (how
> many IdPs of that federation are also in eduGAIN).
> 
> The direct link to that page is: 
> https://technical.edugain.org/isFederatedCheck/Federations/
> 
> The eduGAIN coverage is of course also available via the REST/JSON
> API.
> 
> 
> Nothing is prefect :-) ---------------------- The feature to show
> the eduGAIN coverage is new and it is not be 100% accurate for all
> federations, still it's certainly more accurate than the eduGAIN
> map alone when it comes to judge how many organisations - and their
> users - of a federation are eduGAIN-ready and can actually 
> participate in eduGAIN.
> 
> Bug reports, suggestions and feedback are still welcome.
> 
> 
> And what is the isFederated Check again doing? 
> ---------------------------------------------- The main purpose of
> the eduGAIN isFederated Check Service (EIFCS) is to answer the
> question "how many organisations represented by these email 
> addresses/domain names are already federated and in eduGAIN".
> Basically, the EIFCS checks if a domain name shows up in metadata
> of one of the (self-asserted) production federations worldwide as
> well as in eduGAIN. The EIFCS is a great tool to quickly determine
> how many users for example of a research community, have federated
> and eduGAIN-enabled accounts.
> 
> The EIFCS was originally on wiki.edugain.org but was recently moved
> to technical.edugain.org thanks to the eduGAIN OT.
> 
> 
> Best Regards Lukas
> 
> 


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