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[Lukas Hämmerle <lukas.haemmerle AT switch.ch>]

I would opt for listing the categories "eduGAIN members", "Joining" and
"eduGAIN Candidate" and maybe "Other Known Federations".

I second Tomasz' view on the distinction between
members/joining/candidates. The "eduGAIN Candidate" category being
reserved for federations that (at least vaguely) at some point expressed
their interest in joining eduGAIN.

Having all known federations listed gives a good overview about
federations in general and it could motivate some federations to get an
upgrade to get into the top category :-)

Best Regards
Lukas

On 24.10.13 19:09, Tomasz Wolniewicz wrote:
> Hi,
>    My opinion on this would be as follows, it differs from the current
> Brook's practice.
> 
> 1. We may list only those federations which have expressed an interest
> to be on the list, hence no implicit "membership".
> 
> 2. The "Joining" category should be reserved for those who have signed
> the eduGAIN declaration and have been either pre-approved or approved by
> TSG. Their status will only change to "Members" when they are in
> production, fulfilling all requirements. In practice this will mean the
> following - pre-approved federations can jump to the joining status as
> soon as they have signed the declatation, federations requiring approval
> form TSG need to be recommended by the OT, which in my opinion can only
> happen after all necessary documents have been verified. Metadata feed
> would essentially be the only non-required condition.
> 
> 3. The Candidate should be any federation which has expressed interest.
> These federations should formally exist but can be in various stages of
> readiness. There are no guarantees that these federations will be
> finally apprved, that what a "candidate" stands for, after all.
> 
> Tomasz
> 
> W dniu 24.10.2013, 17:08, Brook Schofield pisze:
>> All,
>>
>> on the eduGAIN Status Page:
>>    http://edugain.org/technical/status.php
>>
>> we now have 20 federations that participate in eduGAIN and a further
>> five (5) federations that are in the process of joining. The last
>> section on that page lists five (5) "candidate" federations.
>>
>> The original reason for having these "candidate" federations was due
>> to the previous governance structure of eduGAIN and the role of the
>> NREN-PC in approving a federation joining. Because this was deemed to
>> be a heavy weight process (and the meetings of the NREN-PC are not
>> that frequent) an original list of 27 Federations was drawn up and
>> approved on the 5th September 2011. This list had an addition (Belnet)
>> on 16th May 2012 and two more (TAAT & COFRe) on 6th February 2013.
>>
>> Out of this list of 30 federations (27+1+2) we now have 25
>> joining/participating.
>>
>> Now that the revised eduGAIN constitution is effective (since 30
>> September 2013) it is the eduGAIN Steering Group whose role is to
>> approve new federations joining.
>>
>> This old document provides an "express pass" to joining eduGAIN which
>> bypasses the eSGs role. So I'd like to know whether "candidate"
>> federations should proceed through the entire joining process
>> (including the Steering Group approval) and whether we can broaden the
>> list of federations to match the list from REFEDS:
>>    https://refeds.org/resources/index.html
>>
>> Maybe a name change from "candidate" to something like "Recognised
>> Federations" or "Known Federations" would serve the new purpose. There
>> are enough federations within eduGAIN that expanding this list to
>> known federations won't make it look like eduGAIN isn't supporting the
>> community.
>>
>> The next challenge is to see how we can encourage federations to
>> publish IdPs and SPs into their metadata stream for eduGAIN ;-)
>>
>> -Brook
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> 
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