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  • From: Pasquale Mandato <pasquale.mandato AT garr.it>
  • To: Stefan Winter <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>, TOBLINI Michele HUNIMED <michele.toblini AT hunimed.eu>, "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
  • Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] CAT Android issue
  • Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:37:09 +0100
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for the reply. Probably Michele refers to the fact that in the
administration portal in Italian, due to a javascript error (as stated
in my email of last Friday), it is not possible to enter the address. No
problem in the English version. Probably Michele used a browser in
English and was able to enter the address correctly.

Just a question: when we send a CAT invitation to an institution listed
in the drop-down menu (and so present in the eduroam database XML or
JSON), the latitude and longitude of the CAT profiles are automatically
populated with XML / JSON data?


Greetings,

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Pasquale Mandato
GARR - The Italian Academic and Research Network
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Tel: +39 06 4962 2528
Email: pasquale.mandato AT garr.it
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Il 25/02/19 11:29, Stefan Winter ha scritto:
> Hello,
>
> glad to hear that this works for you.
>
> Indeed, the geo location in the browser is not always accurate. Unless
> you allow HTML5 Geo-Location, we can only guess the location from the IP
> address which sometimes is very inaccurate.
>
> The best thing to do is to allow said HTML5 geolocation (which, for
> whatever reason, typically works okay), or to live with the inaccuracy.
>
> This should be much less of an issue on a mobile device since those
> typically have a very good idea about their own location (GPS, cell
> tower proximity, ...). Unless you explicitly turn location services off,
> of course.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Stefan Winter
>
> Am 25.02.19 um 10:29 schrieb TOBLINI Michele HUNIMED:
>> Hi Stefan,
>>
>> thanks for your reply. Now that you mention the location I remember that
>> the system didn't allow me to put the address or geo locate during the
>> registration's process.
>> I tried again and everything works fine. But i have to click locate to
>> find my organizations. If I don't do anything the first result is Perugia
>> and it tells me it's 23 km far away which is not true. It's 450 km more or
>> less distant from Milano.
>>
>> Michele
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>> ________________________________________
>> Da: Stefan Winter <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>
>> Inviato: lunedì 25 febbraio 2019 10:13
>> A: Pasquale Mandato; cat-users AT lists.geant.org
>> Cc: TOBLINI Michele HUNIMED
>> Oggetto: Re: CAT Android issue
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yes, we've investigated the case.
>>
>> The institution administrator of Humanitas did not set at least one
>> coordinate pair for his institution in the CAT admin area. There are in
>> total five institutions who do the same in Italy.
>>
>> In the web interface, we work around that lack of information by listing
>> institutions without coordinates first, subtitling them just "Italy"
>> without a distance to the user. All the others are sorted by their
>> respective distance to the user and are displayed in order.
>>
>> You can see the (subtle) difference in the attached screenshot. First
>> come 5 institutions listed as "Italy" and then comes the first one with
>> geo coordinates, listed as "Italy 513 km", which is about correct as the
>> distance from my office in Luxembourg.
>>
>> The app currently only lists instutions with geo coordinates and
>> displays them in order, meaning the institutions without geo coordinates
>> get lost.
>>
>> We are working on an app update to fix that in one way or another. IMHO,
>> the distance-based automatic search should continue to ignore such
>> institutions because there is no fitting place to inject them in the
>> list. But of course a manual search for the name should find them.
>>
>> In the light of this, we might also rethink the order of coordinate-less
>> institutions in the webpage list; it feels wrong to give such
>> institutions "priority".
>>
>> The workaround (and in fact a good idea in genral, IMHO) would be for
>> the institution to tell the system at least one coordinate pair with the
>> approximate institution whereabouts.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Stefan Winter
>>
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