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RE: [[cat-users]] Installation of Eduroam for Windows Phone 8.1 and 10


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  • From: "Marcin Balcerzyk" <mbalcerzyk AT us.es>
  • To: "'Stefan Winter'" <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>, "'Alan Buxey'" <A.L.M.Buxey AT lboro.ac.uk>, <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
  • Cc: 'Daniel Daza Muñoz' <daniel AT us.es>, "'Alan Buxey'" <A.L.M.Buxey AT lboro.ac.uk>, <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
  • Subject: RE: [[cat-users]] Installation of Eduroam for Windows Phone 8.1 and 10
  • Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:35:39 +0100

Dear Stefan.

FIrst of all thank you for your response. I have purchased in December Lumia
640 phone which came with WP8. I tried to connect to Eduroam from US.ES but
it did not work. Then I update my phone to WP10, which I use now. There the
WiFi interface is different and some possibilities also. There, none of the
three servers (US.ES, UCM.ES nor CSIC.ES) allowed me to join eduroam. The
use of server certificates (preload or accept the received one) is not very
clear for me.

I am no IT professional, just wanted to use Eduroam from my phone. I know
fairly nothing about security protocols and certificates. If they work, fine,
once it stops, a disaster. I configured Eduroam from Android 4 tablet,
Windows 10 PC laptop with my US.ES account.

When you look at Windows Feedback (in Windows Phone 10) many people around
the world struggle to get connected to Eduroam with WP10. The only successful
site in Spain (albeit with WP8.1) is University of Alicante:
http://si.ua.es/en/wifi/eduroam/peap/eduroam-installation-for-windows-phone-8.html


I will turn back to my University IT so that Daniel Daza Muñoz can exactly
tell what is the problem he detected in the authentication servers.

Kind regards

Marcin Balcerzyk, Ph.D.
Unidad Ciclotron,
Centro Nacional de Aceleradores,
Universidad de Sevilla-CSIC-Junta de Andalucia,
Parque Tecnólogico Cartuja 93,
c/Thomas Alva Edison Nº 7,
41092 Sevilla (Spain),
Tel.: (+34) 954 460 553 ext. 226,
Fax: (+34) 954 460 145,
mobile:(+34) 697 322 126
Skype: balcerzm


-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Winter
[mailto:stefan.winter AT restena.lu]

Sent: viernes, 22 de enero de 2016 12:52
To: Marcin Balcerzyk
<mbalcerzyk AT us.es>;
'Alan Buxey'
<A.L.M.Buxey AT lboro.ac.uk>;

cat-users AT lists.geant.org
Cc: 'Daniel Daza Muñoz'
<daniel AT us.es>
Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Installation of Eduroam for Windows Phone 8.1 and
10

Hello,

> It did not work. This is my local university (University of Seville).
> I ask IT an person and they said that the way EAP certificate is
> stored in the directory is incompatible with Windows Phone 10 setting
> and they do not want to do anything about it (I think that I understood it
> well).

Well... If they tell you they don't want to make this work for you, then I'm
not sure how we can be of much help?

I see that their server cert does not contain a Extension CA:FALSE (which
some OSes seem to like). That would certainly be easy to fix, but only they
can do that. IF that is the actual issue.

> I tried also logging in with credentials of CSIC.ES and UCM.ES, where
> I have accounts, hoping for the authentication slight differences,
> but non worked. The description of the eduroam settings are here
>
>
>
> UCM.ES: https://www.ucm.es/ssii/eduroam

At least this one has a certificate which is very well-behaved and does not
raise any warnings. If Windows Phone doesn't like that certificate, then all
shame is on Windows 10 IMHO.

Your earlier comment on the us.es IT staff seems to indicate that they
actually know what exactly Windows Phone dislikes about the certificate.
That's great - I don't :-) If you can get the admins to tell us what the
issue is, we may be able to add checks for that condition in our tools...

> CSIC.ES does not have a clear description of their authentication method.

I have browsed through some documentation on their website and they have
TTLS-PAP as one supported method; they are using the TCS service for their
server certificates (just like ucm.es)

> I have found on Spanish Eduroam forum a link to Microsoft that states
> that EAP-TTLS (PAP) is supported on WP8.1 but it seems it is not:
> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn643706.aspx.

I don't understand. That article lists TTLS-PAP just fine? But then again,
why are you now talking about WP 8.1 now? Earlier you say that you have WP 10?

> Any suggestion?

More and clearer information would be nice.

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Marcin Balcerzyk, Ph.D.
>
> Unidad Ciclotron,
>
> Centro Nacional de Aceleradores,
>
> Universidad de Sevilla-CSIC-Junta de Andalucia,
>
> Parque Tecnólogico Cartuja 93,
>
> c/Thomas Alva Edison Nº 7,
>
> 41092 Sevilla (Spain),
>
> Tel.: (+34) 954 460 553 ext. 226,
>
> Fax: (+34) 954 460 145,
>
> mobile:(+34) 697 322 126
>
> Skype: balcerzm
>
>
>
> *From:*Alan Buxey
> [mailto:A.L.M.Buxey AT lboro.ac.uk]
> *Sent:* sábado, 12 de diciembre de 2015 18:06
> *To:* Marcin Balcerzyk
> <mbalcerzyk AT us.es>;
>
> cat-users AT lists.geant.org
> *Subject:* Re: [[cat-users]] Installation of Eduroam for Windows Phone
> 8.1 and 10
>
>
>
> Just install the CA as per your organisation's requirements and then
> use your username/password as per requirements. It'll work, securely,
> with no need for CAT App (which is a long long way away)
>
> alan
>
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