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- From: Robert Franklin <rcf34 AT cam.ac.uk>
- To: Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>
- Cc: Ethan A Bateman <ebateman AT lsu.edu>, "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
- Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue
- Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 10:58:05 +0000
On 19 Jan 2016, at 19:10, Tomasz Wolniewicz
<twoln AT umk.pl>
wrote:
> Could you provide us with some more details, the operating system and the
> institution for which the installer is downloaded?
>
> My Windows 10 does not throw any warnings on installers I have tested.
We've had sporadic reports of this problem over the last couple of days as
well and I think this might be the cause...
Firstly, we use a well-known CA-signed certificate for eduroam and have just
(as of 7:30am this last Monday) rolled it over to a new 3-year one from
QuoVadis (the Jisc/Janet UK certificate provider). As such, we updated our
CAT to use the CA certificate and have had a lot of users re-downloading the
CAT to fix their connections in the past couple of days.
That we've changed the CAT details has obviously caused a new CAT installer
to be built and signed by the CAT website.
The other change is that has happened since we last changed our CAT is the
1st January 2016 where Microsoft appear to have changed their policy on code
signing certificates:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/32288.windows-enforcement-of-authenticode-code-signing-and-timestamping.aspx
... basically, Windows 7 and above don't accept SHA-1 certificates for code
signing after this date. The installer appears (from what little I know
about Windows) to use a SHA-256 certificate, but the intermediate CAs (and
root - although I don't believe that matters) DO use SHA-1 - these are: The
USERTrust Network; UTN-USERFirst-Object; TERENA Code Signing CA; TERENA.
Microsoft don't explain, in the above post, what the effect on chain
certificates is, but I suspect they probably would be untrusted and trigger
this problem.
On a Windows 10 machine, if I turn on SmartScreen and download our new CAT, I
get an error "Windows protected your PC / Windows SmartScreen prevented an
unrecognised application from starting.". I can press 'More info' and then a
'Run anyway' to bypass it (at least as an administrator).
If I turn off SmartScreen, the program runs as normal (I get the normal "Open
File - Security Warning" box and have to push 'Run').
This only applies to executables with the "Mark of the Web" (which, for an
executable appears to be an NTFS stream) - if I copy the file to a FAT USB
stick, it will run fine. If I copy it back, it also runs fine; if I add the
"Mark of the Web" back onto the executable manually, it will not run with
SmartScreen enables (but will without).
In short, currently, I'm suspecting the SHA-1 intermediate certificates used
to sign the CAT installer, but I can't really test any further.
Does this seem plausible?
- Bob
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- [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Ethan A Bateman, 01/19/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Tomasz Wolniewicz, 01/19/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Robert Franklin, 01/20/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Stefan Winter, 01/20/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Robert Franklin, 01/20/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Stefan Winter, 01/20/2016
- RE: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Ethan A Bateman, 01/21/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Stefan Winter, 01/20/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Robert Franklin, 01/20/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Stefan Winter, 01/20/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Robert Franklin, 01/20/2016
- Re: [[cat-users]] Certificate Issue, Tomasz Wolniewicz, 01/19/2016
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