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Re: [cat-users] Automatic fetch of CAT tools for our institution?


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  • From: Vidar Kværnø Stokke <vidar.stokke AT ntnu.no>
  • To: Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>, Steve Bohrer <skbohrer AT simons-rock.edu>, "cat-users AT geant.net" <cat-users AT geant.net>
  • Subject: Re: [cat-users] Automatic fetch of CAT tools for our institution?
  • Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:56:17 +0000
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  • List-id: "The mailing list for users of the eduroam Configuration Assistant Tool \(CAT\)" <cat-users.geant.net>

Hey all.

>
>W dniu 2014-06-05 00:56, Steve Bohrer pisze:
>> Is it possible to automatically download versions of CAT for our
>> institution for various OSes? Or is the preferred use that we have all our
>> users directly connect to the cat.eduroam.org page?
>We prefer users to connect directly., but if you want to update things
>regularly then you will be safe as well.

[...]

>>
>> Or, if you’d really prefer that our users go directly to your page,
>> please let me know that as well. (I realize that this would be
>> beneficial for any eduroam guest users who had not previously
>> connected at their home institution, but I don’t know that there are
>> many of these visiting us.)
>Generally we would prefer direct access, if only for download statistics. You
>could provide just this one address from your local SSID. But there may be
>reasons why local provisioning is better.

I really see both sides on this one. We also update a local captive portal on
an SSID so that users can get theirs hands on the CAT-application. But Steve
brings up a point; what about external users/guests?

My main problem is that on an SSID like this "instructions-for-eduroam", I
would like to restrict as much traffic as possible. It is actually no need
for my local users to be able to go on the Internet on this SSID. So
basically RFC1918 IPv4 addresses and no routing for them outside my campus
network. This means that they will not be able to go to cat.eduroam.org for
eduroam setup.

I think this is the way we will continue to do it. Most external eduroam
users already have their setup in order.

>What might also interest you is that in 1.1 we are adding a feature of
>deleting
>a reference to the temporary network, so that users's device do not
>automatically reconnect to it in the future. You will just need to specify
>the
>SSID of such a network.
>

This one is really good. The SSID "instructions-for-eduroam", for instance,
should really be deleted from the device after running the CAT tool. Will it
be possible to delete multiple SSIDs? I also want to delete an SSID I have
for guests that don't have eduroam accounts.

>I wonder of what people will think about SSID "instructions-for-eduroam".
>Strictly speaking this is a violation of eduroam copyright. Normally we tell
>beple not to use names like "eduroam-local" etc, but "instructions-for-
>eduroam" sounds really nice and harmless, and at least I would support the
>usage of it.
>

Personally I don't think this is a problem. The main thing here is that it is
used to get people to get connected to Eduroam and not as a replacement for
the SSID 'eduroam'. But we prefer to rather use 'ntnu' (the Norwegian
abbreviation of Norwegian University of Science and Technology) as the name
for this SSID. It just makes sense. But... I think "instructions-for-eduroam"
is pretty harmless.

--
Best regards
Vidar Stokke
Senior Engineer
IT-division, Networking
Norwegian University of Science and Technology
(NTNU)
http://www.ntnu.no/it


>Cheers
>Tomasz
>
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
>>
>> Steve Bohrer
>> Network Admin, ITS
>> Bard College at Simon's Rock
>> 413-528-7645
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>--
>Tomasz Wolniewicz
>
> twoln AT umk.pl
> http://www.home.umk.pl/~twoln
>
>Uczelniane Centrum Informatyczne Information&Communication
>Technology Centre
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>






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