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Re: [RARE-users] RARE/Wedge BGP table size?


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  • From: mc36 <>
  • To: , Tim Chown <>
  • Cc: Frédéric LOUI <>, Xavier Jeannin <>
  • Subject: Re: [RARE-users] RARE/Wedge BGP table size?
  • Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 18:57:06 +0100

hi,

On 2/7/22 18:39, Tim Chown wrote:
Hi,

Well, our use case is fairly simple. The Wedge would act as a 100G gateway
to host four 100G connected servers that we d use to test perfSONAR and
various data transfers tools on DTNs. This would be a static setup, with
maybe a single v4 and v6 subnet on the server side. So BGP seems overkill,
but our engineers asked what RARE/FreeRtr supports.

basically everything is supported that you expect from a cisco/junos box...
if it's bgp, or even bgp-lu, with a single prefix, then that...
if it's isis, then we\re part of geant for a year, part of local nren's ospf
and fullbgp,
keeping the geant's mdvpn bgp-lu + vpnv4/vpnv6/vpls routes from bmp
flawlessly,
so have no concerns, let your engs imagine anything, we already support it :)


What matters most is the performance, hence our interest in the tests by PSNC
and on the Data Mover Challenge. We ve seen high rates from Joseph s
device at UvA, but inconclusive results from PSNC (they probably need to be
more tightly defined). We think in a scenario where there s generally a
limited number of concurrent flows, the small Wedge buffers (16 or 20MB?0
should be OK.

so in psnc they did the measures over lr over cwdm which, in terms of
inter-packet times and drops are not a good choice...
i remember clearly that initially we had 1 crcing lane out of 4, and after
the swaps, the levels fairly was under warning...


There s no initial need for multicast, PolKa or anything like that.

ahh, pick any profile from the available ones depending on what you want to
test...
and if your engs complain that this or that table is too small, just drop a
template
over the fence with your goals and we'll optimize for that too... it's about
30m per
profile and need to be done once per p4 change (which is rare nowadays)


Raul and David are checking QSFPs and cables this week, so we re getting
closer to being ready to deploy.

sounds goods!

regards,
cs


Tim

On 7 Feb 2022, at 15:23, mc36 <> wrote:

hi,
exactly, it depends on the exact features you need...
this is the ultimate source of thruth:
>>
https://bitbucket.software.geant.org/projects/RARE/repos/rare/browse/profiles
the .tmpl files are the 'golas' that you have to set yourself...
it's a two step optimization, first for the tcam, then for the sram...
this is an ip-only profile with nothing else but the ipv4/ipv6 fib enabled:
https://bitbucket.software.geant.org/projects/RARE/repos/rare/browse/profiles/profile-rawip.tmpl
https://bitbucket.software.geant.org/projects/RARE/repos/rare/browse/profiles/profile-rawip.p4
and here is an other with mpls enabled:
https://bitbucket.software.geant.org/projects/RARE/repos/rare/browse/profiles/profile-p.tmpl
https://bitbucket.software.geant.org/projects/RARE/repos/rare/browse/profiles/profile-p.p4
as flou said, you should set your own features and goals and then it'll
optimize for that specific profile...
one thing to keep in mind that both sram and tcam table increase could span
to multiple code stages,
resulting in lower tables so choose the primary goal according to your needs
and let the secondary
goal span the remaining asic code space...
regards,
cs





On 2/7/22 15:15, Fr d ric LOUI wrote:
Let me add Csaba as he is tweaking RARE profiles at teh moment.
The answer I presume will depends on your use case.
Le 7 f vr. 2022 14:51, Tim Chown <> a crit :

Hi,

What size BGP table can the Wedge take running RARE?

i.e. should we suggest our engineers configure static routing?

Raul and David (our engineer) will be looking at the Wedge, servers and
cabling in their current location this week, as the plan to deploy 100G in
London gets nearer
Thanks,
Tim




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