Rare project developers

[Tim Chown <>]

ASM inter domain is a pig to manage and troubleshoot, hence the deprecation 
and the focus on SSM/bier.

A domain can do whatever it likes within its own borders.  ASM, AppleTalk, ...

Tim

> On 2 Oct 2023, at 09:28, mc36 <> wrote:
> 
> soooo i mean, from the isp's perspective, imho ietf should consider 
> deprecating asn in intra-domain also... XDDDDDD
> 
> just my 10 cents...
> 
> thanks,
> 
> cs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/2/23 10:26, mc36 wrote:
>> sorry, my bad english/fat finhers... seamless mpls... :)
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9600/software/release/16-12/configuration_guide/mpls/b_1612_mpls_9600_cg/configuring_seamless_mpls.html
>> https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/nce/nce-141-bbe-solution-2.0-seamless-mpls/topics/example/nce-141-example-seamless-mpls.html
>> On 10/2/23 10:25, mc36 wrote:
>>> +lists
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/2/23 10:24, mc36 wrote:
>>>> sameless mpls is an ebgp, please... it is considered inter-domain to 
>>>> overcome the igp limitations....
>>>> 
>>>> now this ebgp considered here ibgp as were a small isp...
>>>> 
>>>> br,
>>>> 
>>>> cs
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/2/23 10:21, Tim Chown wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just inter-domain ASM deprecated, if you want to run it inside a 
>>>>> domain, fine, just like anything else.     Everyone should be using 
>>>>> SSM, or bier.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 30 Sep 2023, at 18:02, mc36 <> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and a thousands rfcs later, this just arrived with my daily mail....
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> so you deprecated except when the vendors wants running dc 
>>>>>> installations kept alive for some more years.... :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Deprecating Any-Source Multicast (ASM) for Interdomain Multicast" 
>>>>>> (finally)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> vs
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "PIM Null-Register Packing" :)))))))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> if that sucks for interdomains then dear vmware+cisco the heck are you 
>>>>>> doing with nxos aci apic...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> its a common secret that iosxr kills anything, nxos is not an 
>>>>>> exception, and dc-i an ebgp...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvx07403
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> it must be a locking issue, asr9k advertises immediately (adv-int 0) 
>>>>>> and it is not
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> suggested to remove the default because thats your main 
>>>>>> businesses..... you can but
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> then multipath fast recovery is what u lose on the other hand, at 
>>>>>> least.... :)))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> so tim @ ietf mcast group, now whats next!? :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ps: yesterday evening i was shittested by prz @ jnpr, here is the 
>>>>>> thread if u missed the pubthread:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (#ns4w #imho)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://groups.io/g/freertr/topic/101665080#2027
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> br,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cs
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>> Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.
>>> View/Reply Online (#2070): https://groups.io/g/freertr/message/2070
>>> Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/101707952/6006518
>>> Group Owner: 
>>> Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/freertr/unsub []
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>> 
>>>