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[Tim Chown <>]

You mean ones sent to multicast-discuss, or…?   If you can give an example I 
can check again.

Tim

> On 16 Sep 2022, at 12:29, mc36 <> wrote:
> 
> ok then... just the juniper mails ares nor arriving to the lists according 
> to frederic findings...
> 
> On 9/15/22 10:28, Tim Chown wrote:
>> I meant in my own (Jisc) email, but I already get all yours Csaba.
>>> On 15 Sep 2022, at 06:25, mc36 <> wrote:
>>> 
>>> good to know, thans... could you please whitelist the mx of
>>> nop.hu, mpls and juniper domains too?
>>> thanks,
>>> cs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/30/22 16:08, Tim Chown wrote:
>>>> Hi Christina,
>>>> I see all your emails marked as spam by my NREN   s mail system.  There 
>>>> may be some problem with your IP reputation or something similar?  Might 
>>>> be related to the list and archiving issues.
>>>> I   ve added a filter to prevent that happening in the future.
>>>> Tim
>>>>> On 29 Aug 2022, at 16:14, Cristina Klippel Dominicini 
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Csaba!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am happy to hear this :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I sent the e-mail to my friends, but in the meanwhile I am 
>>>>> investigating and found this track:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Section 15.5, page 419
>>>>> https://shoup.net/ntb/ntb-v2.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> "There are two other factoring algorithms not discussed here, but that 
>>>>> should anyway at least be mentioned. The first is the elliptic curve 
>>>>> method, introduced by Lenstra [60]. Unlike all of the other known 
>>>>> subexponential-time algorithms, the running time of this algorithm is 
>>>>> sensitive to the sizes of the factors of n; in particular, if p is the 
>>>>> smallest prime dividing n, the algorithm will find p (heuristically) in 
>>>>> expected time
>>>>> exp[(   2 + o(1))(log p log log p)1/2]    len(n)O(1).
>>>>> This algorithm is quite practical, and is the method of choice when it 
>>>>> is known (or suspected) that n has some small factors. It also has the 
>>>>> advantage that it uses only polynomial space (unlike all of the other 
>>>>> known subexponential-time factoring algorithms)."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Cristina
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> De: mc36 <>
>>>>> Enviado: segunda-feira, 29 de agosto de 2022 11:12
>>>>> Para: ; Cristina Klippel Dominicini
>>>>> Assunto: Re: [rare-dev] ecdh vs dh
>>>>> 
>>>>> ps: thanks for the math pdf you sent me a year ago or so...
>>>>> we learnt math in hungarian so it really helped me a lot!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/29/22 16:06, mc36 wrote:
>>>>>> thanks for confirming the reception of the mail...
>>>>>> and thanks for taking care of the question...
>>>>>> please take your time, it have a good change that
>>>>>> i\m not right so dont put too much effort into it,
>>>>>> just if it really catches an interest somewhere....
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> cs
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/29/22 16:01, Cristina Klippel Dominicini wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Csaba!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay. For some reason, I am not receiving all the 
>>>>>>> threads from the rare list, and my mail server also blocked some 
>>>>>>> messages. I will check the archives.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Interesting question! I am honored by your mention as a skilled 
>>>>>>> mathematician, but I am more a computer engineering trying to 
>>>>>>> understand and apply the math concepts to computing
>>>>>>> problems :-D But I have some very skilled mathematician friends that 
>>>>>>> help me when I have some doubts. I will check with them if they have 
>>>>>>> any insights about your question and get
>>>>>>> back to you soon :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Cristina
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> De:  
>>>>>>> <> em nome de mc36 <>
>>>>>>> Enviado: sexta-feira, 26 de agosto de 2022 06:45
>>>>>>> Para: Cristina Klippel Dominicini
>>>>>>> Cc: 
>>>>>>> Assunto: [rare-dev] ecdh vs dh
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> can i ask you to help me solve a long lived question of me please:
>>>>>>> (i ask you because you're the only well skilled mathematician i know)
>>>>>>> (if it's outside of your interest, please forward it someone)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> which is harder to find out both a and b:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ( (g^a)^b) % p == ( (g^b)^a) % p
>>>>>>> where g is 2 or 5, p is a 8192 bit prime, both well known, a and b 
>>>>>>> are both secrets
>>>>>>> here we are talking about positive integers
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> a*b == b*a
>>>>>>> here the computation is performed over 448bit elliptic curves
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> my reasoning is that reversing the multiplication should be easier 
>>>>>>> than solving the discrete logarithm problem
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i see that it is an apples to oranges kind of question so a weak 
>>>>>>> conjecture is much more than enough
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> cs
>>>>>>> 
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