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  • From: mc36 <>
  • To: Alexander Gall <>
  • Cc: , Xavier Jeannin <>
  • Subject: Re: [rare-dev] bulk upgrade of the rare packages
  • Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 15:09:41 +0200


Nix deals with this by allowing the location of the CA bundle to be
overridden by the environment. In the standard installation we use,
this is done by default. E.g. on a Debian system, Nix will actually
use /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt, which can be kept up to date
independently.


somehow i still find some, and as i see their openjdk compiled with the
bundled cacerts....

rare@poz0001:/nix/store$ find . | grep cacert
./yvk26y8bj8zwb6ipp7bm8jv57pv02sn5-nss-cacert-3.49.2
./yvk26y8bj8zwb6ipp7bm8jv57pv02sn5-nss-cacert-3.49.2/etc
./yvk26y8bj8zwb6ipp7bm8jv57pv02sn5-nss-cacert-3.49.2/etc/ssl
./yvk26y8bj8zwb6ipp7bm8jv57pv02sn5-nss-cacert-3.49.2/etc/ssl/certs
./yvk26y8bj8zwb6ipp7bm8jv57pv02sn5-nss-cacert-3.49.2/etc/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt
./yvk26y8bj8zwb6ipp7bm8jv57pv02sn5-nss-cacert-3.49.2/nix-support
./yvk26y8bj8zwb6ipp7bm8jv57pv02sn5-nss-cacert-3.49.2/nix-support/setup-hook
./6xbx7vhkk0gpc86rp6zrdahaqpz27ppw-bf-utils-9.7.2/lib/python3.8/site-packages/pip/_vendor/certifi/cacert.pem
./6xbx7vhkk0gpc86rp6zrdahaqpz27ppw-bf-utils-9.7.2/lib/python3.8/test/pycacert.pem
./z52xqzn9l743ajlfw873j93h5rxrwzz9-source/pkgs/development/compilers/openjdk/generate-cacerts.pl
./z52xqzn9l743ajlfw873j93h5rxrwzz9-source/pkgs/data/misc/cacert
./z52xqzn9l743ajlfw873j93h5rxrwzz9-source/pkgs/data/misc/cacert/setup-hook.sh
./z52xqzn9l743ajlfw873j93h5rxrwzz9-source/pkgs/data/misc/cacert/default.nix
./h128b1jcvqh3g6l78c1s0jwdmm0wwj1a-openjdk-headless-14.0.2-ga/lib/openjdk/lib/security/cacerts
./7yx2ng37byikwxf4a2b08aqkjp23r2zc-openjdk-headless-14.0.2-ga-minimal-jre/lib/security/cacerts
./rp8sj2a669h8gknh8xnvwb5ab6p15352-nss-cacert-3.56.drv
rare@poz0001:/nix/store$



9.1.1 surely was designed to debian10 or older with it's old kernel,
so imho the kernel modules from the sde does not compile for the current
image we're on... simply those old kernel modules dont have the ifdefs
for the newer kernels...

I would notice if something doesn't compile, don't you think? I
back-ported a few changes from 9.2.0 to 9.1.1 back then for that
purpose. All SDEs compile and they all work on kernels all the way to
Debian 11.4.
okk then...




moreover, once debian12 will be out, i bet you they'll require even newer
packages...
so i believe you that for now you found a point in time when all your current
sdes
compile and do something at least in model mode but believe me, that'll
change with
as time passes by...

Look, you can really leave that up to me as the maintainer of these
packages. When I can support older stuff with minimal effort, I do
so. I also have no problem to drop things when it takes more work than
it's worth. Neither is it a problem to move to a newer version of
nixpkgs at some point (I definitely will). If you find an *actual*
problem (as opposed to speculations or misconceptions, no offense
intended), I'll be happy to deal with it. I haven't seen one so far :)

okk then....


We can move to a different version of nixpkgs for freerouter, as I
already proposed, to disentangle that from the SDE.

sounds cool, let's do that then...

thanks,
cs



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