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[Jaime Pérez Crespo <jaime.perez AT uninett.no>]

On 29 Oct 2014, at 17:39 pm, Peter Schober <peter.schober AT univie.ac.at> wrote:
> * Leif Johansson <leifj AT sunet.se> [2014-10-29 17:34]:
>> If R&S specifies releasing eduPersonScopedAffiliation and FEIDE doesn't
>> have that attribute, how will including it in a bundle help FEIDE?
> 
> That's probably my point: It won't help FEIDE per se, it would force
> FEIDE to align its practices with the spec IFF they wanted to be able
> to apply to (SPs) or support (IDPs) REFEDS R&S.

And that’s an entirely different problem. First of all I should say that the 
problem is not that Feide doesn’t have eduPersonScopedAffiliation. We do 
indeed. Nor it’s that we don’t want to release it. We’re glad to do it. The 
problem is that most of our institutions don’t have that attribute in their 
directories, so it’s not that we don’t have it or we don’t want to release 
it, but: most users don’t have such information.

That given, how exactly would that force Feide to align its practices with 
the spec? It reminds me of a different discussion I had last week regarding 
the CoCo. You could say Feide willingly aligns with the spec, but since Feide 
is not the holder of the attributes… If we are “forced” to align, what does 
that mean? Should we go to each and every institution out there and threaten 
them to kick them out of Feide if they don’t include 
eduPersonScopedAffiliation and schacHomeOrganization for all their users? 
Should we do that then even for those users/institutions where sHO, for 
instance, doesn’t have any semantics and cannot actually have any value?

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Jaime Pérez
UNINETT / Feide
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