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[Peter Schober <peter.schober AT univie.ac.at>]

* Ian Young <ian AT iay.org.uk> [2014-07-07 12:59]:
> IdPs imported from eduGAIN are currently treated as *not*
> hidden. Our thinking was that if they have made it into eduGAIN --
> which most participants are operating as an opt-in system -- then
> they are probably intended to be visible.
> 
> We considered marking eduGAIN entities as hidden by default, but as
> I mentioned in the previous post to Glenn, decided it was (probably)
> not the right thing to do for all eduGAIN IdPs. I'd be interested to
> hear whether other federation operators felt that was the correct
> decision (a) for all eduGAIN IdPs in the UKf CDS but more
> interestingly (b) specifically for *their* IdPs.

While I do think that listing any non-UKf IDP in /the/ UKf DS is
"wrong" to some degree (not that I have any issues with that; we just
run several "fallback" DSs for that case[1]) I defintively wouldn't
agree with conflating eduGAIN IDPs with IDPs that chose to be "less
discoverable".
Neither do I intend to use the UKf proprietary metadata extension in
our eduGAIN upstream only to prevent them from showing up there.
But those having problems with the current situation might just do
that, actually, because it won't have any effect on any one else.
It will just break (i.e., return to the current status quo) if/once
the Ukf switches to a standardized flag to signal "less disco".
-peter

[1] https://wiki.univie.ac.at/display/federation/Discovery+Services