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RE: [[cat-users]] Fwd: Windows 10 & CAT - TLS Session reuse error


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  • From: Daniel Sheppard <da.sheppard AT uwinnipeg.ca>
  • To: Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>, "Stevens, Andy" <andy.stevens AT wur.nl>, Stefan Paetow <Stefan.Paetow AT jisc.ac.uk>, "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>, darren.wheatcroft <darren.wheatcroft AT NOTTINGHAM.AC.UK>
  • Subject: RE: [[cat-users]] Fwd: Windows 10 & CAT - TLS Session reuse error
  • Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:37:29 +0000
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Including the intermediate allows for a minor optimization as the supplicant does not need to contact the server to request the intermediate as part of the TLS handshake.

 

From: cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org <cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org> On Behalf Of Tomasz Wolniewicz
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 04:16
To: Stevens, Andy <andy.stevens AT wur.nl>; Stefan Paetow <Stefan.Paetow AT jisc.ac.uk>; cat-users AT lists.geant.org; darren.wheatcroft <darren.wheatcroft AT NOTTINGHAM.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Fwd: Windows 10 & CAT - TLS Session reuse error

 

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I am not sure if I correctly interpret your question.

Any EAP client needs to *know* the root to be able to decide that the server cert not only has the correct name but also that it originates form the trusted source. If the root is already in the Windows trust store then the only use that the installer makes of it is pointing to its fingerprint as *the root*.

The intermediate certificates normally should not be needed. It should be up to the RADIUS server to send out all intermediates together with the server certificate. The client is then able to verify the whole path (using the root that it has locally). If the server does not send the chain then the client needs to have the intermediates for verification.

Cheers

Tomasz Wolniewicz

 

W dniu 22.12.2021 o 17:27, Stevens, Andy pisze:

Interesting, can somebody refer to information why windows 10 clients need the root installed, alongside the intermediate to make a proper connection?

 

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Date: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 at 16:42
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Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Fwd: Windows 10 & CAT - TLS Session reuse error

 

Yes, I suspect that is exactly it.

 

Uploading the Comodo AAA certificate should probably resolve the problem if the GEANT cert is shipped along with the server certificate.

 

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From: <cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org> on behalf of Stefan Winter <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>
Reply to: Stefan Winter <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>
Date: Tuesday, 21 December 2021 at 12:53
To: "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>, "darren.wheatcroft" <darren.wheatcroft AT NOTTINGHAM.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Fwd: Windows 10 & CAT - TLS Session reuse error

 

Hello,

 

could you let us know the old and new roots? If the new root is by any chance AAA Services, I think I have a rough idea...

 

Stefan Winter

 

 

Am 21.12.21 um 13:51 schrieb Stefan Winter:

Hi,

 

forwarding on behalf of Darren Wheatcroft, as the mail was sent to the -request address.

 

Stefan Winter



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Windows 10 & CAT - TLS Session reuse error

Datum:

Mon, 20 Dec 2021 11:57:58 +0000

Von:

Darren Wheatcroft <Darren.Wheatcroft AT nottingham.ac.uk>

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cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org <cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org>

 

Hi,

 

We have recently updated our certificates and the CAT tool has been updated accordingly with the cert chain.

 

Since doing this, no Windows 10 device will connect to eduroam - we get 'Unable to connect to this network' on the client, and 'TLS Session Reuse' on the Clearpass server.

 

MacOS, iOS and Android all connect OK. It isn't our build of Windows 10 as it happens on personal machines as well.

 

Essentially the only thing that changed in the CAT tool this year was the certificate chain.

 

Manually forgetting, then connecting will work every time.

 

Does anyone know of any client side logs we could dig into to see what is going on? This years cert update has been a bit challenging!

 

Kind regards

 

Darren

 

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