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  • From: Thorsten Fritsch <thorsten.fritsch AT unibas.ch>
  • To: Patrick Oberli <patrick.oberli AT ost.ch>, Stefan Paetow <Stefan.Paetow AT jisc.ac.uk>, "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
  • Cc: Beate Deiss <beate.deiss AT unibas.ch>, Philipp Petermann <philipp.petermann AT unibas.ch>
  • Subject: RE: [[cat-users]] Specific CatInstaller for Android11 with EAP-TTLS
  • Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 05:41:52 +0000
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Hi All,

thanks for your appreciated feedback. In my case I still had the same issue
with the geteduroam app (on Android 11) which
based on our CAT profile still deployed the PEAP config to the client.
Unfortunately, it would work only after manually changing from PEAP to
EAP-TTLS with MSCHAPv2.

As I haven't heard of the geteduroam app before I'm wondering if it's
trustworthy and safe to use it. Is this app commonly used by the
Swiss/European EDU community ?

Thanks and best,
Thorsten





-----Original Message-----
From: cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org <cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org>
On Behalf Of Patrick Oberli
Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2021 08:42
To: Stefan Paetow <Stefan.Paetow AT jisc.ac.uk>; cat-users AT lists.geant.org
Subject: RE: [[cat-users]] Specific CatInstaller for Android11 with EAP-TTLS

Hi All

This is a very interesting discussion.
I had yesterday a Samsung A52 in the hand, where the owner told me he
received a system update yesterday morning and since then his eduroam
(manual) configuration stopped working. We use PEAP MSCHAPv2 here with public
signed certificates. In his case, it was not anymore possible to add the
eduroam profile manually and then authenticating. The Windows Radius always
complained about wrong username/password.
Once we used geteduroam to install the profile, it instantly worked.

Kind regards

ICT - IT-Infrastructure
Netzwerk- und Multimediateam
Patrick Oberli

Tel direkt: +41 58 257 4958
Email: patrick.oberli AT ost.ch

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-----Original Message-----
From: cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org <cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org>
On Behalf Of Stefan Paetow
Sent: Dienstag, 11. Mai 2021 19:16
To: cat-users AT lists.geant.org
Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Specific CatInstaller for Android11 with EAP-TTLS

> > After googling around I found that In December 2020, the Android 11
> QPR1 security disabled the ability to select “Do not validate” for the “CA
> Certificate” dropdown in network settings for a given SSID and changed the
> supplicant behaviour.
> ... and Samsung re-enabled (or still has) it, at least in a Student's
> Galaxy A51 with Android 11 we set up last week.

Yes, Samsung shoehorned it into the certificate validation option (i.e. 'use
system certs', 'use specific cert', or 'do not validate'). I can only surmise
that this must've come from somewhere for them to include it.

> IMO, the "Do not validate" setting has proven THE most dangerous
> thing in eduroam.

Undoubtedly. As is technically the server cert pinning that iOS uses if you
do not use geteduroam or an MDM profile (as issued by eduroam CAT).

> I do not miss it, but you may need to set up MDM, an onboarding
> network or local means of
> config transfer such aus USB-OTG, which may mean a lot of work.

Yes, many of our universities use an onboarding network, although many of our
colleges and schools don't.

> in most Samsung devices (with the notable exception of the Galaxy
> S21).

Is it possible that the S21 has already received a fix for this issue? I have
a Samsung device here that did display the problem when I upgraded to Android
11. I'll power it up and check whether it's getting any updates.

Stefan Paetow
Federated Roaming Technical Specialist

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