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  • From: Stefan Winter <address@concealed>
  • To: "Downton, Sam" <address@concealed>, "address@concealed" <address@concealed>
  • Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] TLS Failures from Android
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:38:08 +0100

Hello Sam!

Thanks for the server certificate. I have taken a look.

The trusted CA as per your CAT profile is:

Subject: C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = COMODO CA
Limited, CN = COMODO RSA Certification Authority

The actual server cert is issued by:

C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = COMODO CA Limited,
CN = COMODO RSA Extended Validation Secure Server CA

=> an intermediate certificate linking "COMODO RSA Extended Validation
Secure Server CA" to "COMODO RSA Certification Authority" is required.

You have not uploaded that intermediate to CAT. This is okay, but then
either the devices need to have that intermediate in their cert stores
"by chance", or your RADIUS server needs to supply it during the EAP
exchange.

Since this a commercial, well-known CA, I'm guessing that most operating
systems have it in their store, so the chain building would just work.

Possibly, Android is a little different and doesn't have or use the
intermediate CA information during the EAP exchange. Unfortunately,
uploading it to CAT won't help here, because Android is also the only
operating system where we cannot install an intermediary; only roots.

So the only option for a complete chain across all operating systems is
by making sure that the RADIUS server sends not only his own server
certificate, but also the intermediate CA certificate of "COMODO RSA
Extended Validation Secure Server CA".

I was trying to reach out to your RADIUS server to see if it does send
the chain but it looks like your server is not reachable internationally
at all. Directly from our Luxembourg primary NRO server using
eapol_test, I get: EAPOL test timed out. This is not an issue of wrong
usernames, it's basic connectivity on the RADIUS level. You may have
more issues than just certificate ones here.

As a side note: you are using a certificate from an Extended Validation
CA. We have received repeated reports that ChromeOS REJECTS EV
certificates for Wi-Fi server identification purposes. If you care about
ChromeOS, you may need to switch to a non-EV certificate, naturally with
a different validation chain. At the very least, this should be subject
to testing.

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

Am 14.01.19 um 09:03 schrieb Stefan Winter:
> Hello,
>
>> The opposite is true unfortunately! The clients we are experiencing the
>> issue on are Google Pixel 2 phones running Android 9. They have no issue
>> connecting to our eduroam implementation when configured manually, so it
>> would appear to be a configuration issue rather than a lack of
>> compatibility with the infrastructure.
>
> That's quite interesting. Can you confirm that version /before/ 9 work
> with the CAT profiles?
>
> When you write "manual configuration" then that probably means just
> username and password, without cert validation?
>
> If it fails with cert validation, but not without, then maybe it's a
> property of the cert that upsets the newest Android.
>
> Unfortunately, your IdP server seems to run on a Windows NPS or other
> RADIUS server configuration that rejects incoming requests if the outer
> ID does not match a known user - so I can't actually get to see the
> server cert for manual inspection.
>
> You could either edit your profile properties to add the "Use special
> Outer Identity for realm checks" and fill in a valid username - that way
> the CAT tests could get through to the actual EAP exchange; or just send
> me the server cert off-list so I can take a look.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Stefan Winter
>


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