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  • From: Stefan Winter <stefan.winter AT restena.lu>
  • To: Hunter Fuller <hf0002 AT uah.edu>, Stefan Meichtry <stefan.meichtry AT ffhs.ch>, "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
  • Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Installer-Name suffix
  • Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 08:06:05 +0200
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Hi!

Okay, if there are more people having (small) issues with this, maybe we
should do something about it then.

I was first thinking of improving the heuristics (maybe only capitals,
which would make things work for cases like UAH; but it doesn't do any
good for FFHS) but then it's also really very easy to add a config
option and give admins full control. So, for the same amount of code to
be written, we can deliver either a partial or a full solution.

I'm thinking of the full solution :-)

So, the next version to come will have a per-profile option to set the
installer basename. It's optional as usual; if it's not set, we'll use
the heuristics still.

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

Am 01.09.2017 um 17:30 schrieb Hunter Fuller:
> Stefan,
>
> I'm in the same situation, where we have a weird abbreviation, but it
> doesn't matter enough to re-host the file just to change it.
> However, maybe you could notice certain words, and not include them in
> the abbreviation? We are the University of Alabama in Huntsville, or
> UAH, but we end up with "UoAiH" which looks a bit odd.
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 9:55 AM Stefan Winter
> <stefan.winter AT restena.lu
> <mailto:stefan.winter AT restena.lu>>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> > We are nearly ready to go productive. All works fine.
>
> That's great to hear.
> >
> > There is just one thing, I do not find where to configure. The
> > downloaded installers name is
> “eduroam-<OS>-<SUFFIX>.<FILE-Extension>”.
> > For our institution this is for example when downloading for Windows 8
> > “eduroam-W8-FSF.exe”.
> >
> > This Suffix “FSF” makes no sense for me. Can this be changed
> somewhere?
>
> In the early days of the product, we had complaints about filenames
> being too long.
>
> So, there is now a heuristics to shorten the filenames: if an
> institution name contains three or more distinct words, only the first
> letters of each word are taken for the filename.
>
> Example: "Trinity College Dublin" becomes "TCD". Which is a rather
> straightforward algorithm and pleased almost everyone when we
> introduced it.
>
> Your "FSF" comes from the fact your inst name is repeating itself, it
> contains the long version AND its acronym:
>
> "Fernfachhochschule Schweiz (FFHS)"
>
> The algorithm scrubs off the non-alphabet chars, and then finds the
> three words "Fernfachhochschule" "Schweiz" and "FFHS". It then takes the
> first letters of those, which ends up as "FSF".
>
> If you were to configure an inst name "Fernfachhochschule Schweiz" then
> the filename would be literal that (actually, an underscore instead of a
> space to avoid the filesystem naming hell). If you were to choose only
> "FFHS" then that would probably also lead to an acceptable name, as this
> literal acronym would be chosen.
>
> To be honest, we abandoned the idea of making that bit of the filename a
> configurable option when pretty much everybody seemed happy with the
> heuristics.
>
> Maybe you can ask yourself: do you think your users will really care at
> all about those characters in the filename?
>
> If you think they do, then our workaround would be: download the
> installers, rename them, put them on a FFHS-operated support website,
> and configure the "redirect" feature in CAT to take your users to that
> other place.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Stefan Winter
>
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