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- From: Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>
- To: cat-users AT geant.net
- Subject: Re: [cat-users] Apple devices: support proxy auto-discovery (WPAD)?
- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 10:24:40 +0100
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I think there are two issues here.
1. There may sites which require their own local users use a proxy. If such sites exist then they should set up a separate local VLAN for their users. Then a specific configuration option for these users would be required. This setting would have to be done for eduroam SSID, but it would be quite sufficient to have it on the IdP level.
2. There may be sites that require proxies for guests. This is essentially not allowed by the policy with a SHOULD NOT. I am not too happy about setting up eduroam clients just in case one of the networks introduces a problem. WPAD is potentially a security problem. I do not feel well changing the default connection parameters of all clients in the world to less secure. I would rather live with problems at some sites.
So my vote on this would be - per IdP setting - fine with me as this would most likely be directed for the local VLAN only, and besides if an IdP admin wants to change the setting of his users, then I am fine with this.
Tomasz
W dniu 2013-11-18 10:00, Stefan Winter pisze:
Hello,
our Apple "mobileconfig" eduroam configurators currently do net set a flag
"ProxyType = Auto" [1]
which would make devices check automatically if the local hotspot needs
you to go through a proxy. It would use the "WPAD" discovery process. [2]
In eduroam, we don't like web proxies. Still, their use is in principle
allowed under certain conditions as per policy. And if they *are* in
use, enabling WPAD will make the browsing experience much easier /
possible at all when roaming to a hotspot which requires it.
When talking about the main eduroam SSID, any setting we put in there
will either be set for *all* hotspots (IDP's own home hotspot *and*
roaming ones) or none. Also, even IdPs which despise proxies have no way
of knowing whether their own users will eventually roam to a hotspot
which requires this setting.
All this speaks against making WPAD proxy discovery a per-IdP option; it
either should be there or not, eduroam-wide (so, no option bloat for you
:-) ).
We're currently considering to add this auto-discovery property to our
Apple installers for version 1.1 of CAT. Having the setting on "Auto"
should not have any detrimental effects on hotspots which don't
implement it.
So it seems like this is pretty much always a good thing. One possible
exception being that there could be sites which do have a WPAD proxy,
but make its use optional. In these cases, setting Auto would make us
decide about a setting for the end use which he doesn't actually like.
The same thing would be true for every user on the site though, being
CAT-provisioned or not - because they would need to take manual action
to move Operating Systems off of the default (e.g. Microsoft operating
systems tend to have this on "Auto" by default).
If you have an opinion on whether we should or should not set this flag
in Apple mobileconfig in the future, please reply to this mail and let
us know.
Greetings,
Stefan Winter
[1]
https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/featuredarticles/iPhoneConfigurationProfileRef/Introduction/Introduction.html
(Wi-Fi Payload, last entry)
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Proxy_Autodiscovery_Protocol
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Tomasz Wolniewicz
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Uczelniane Centrum Informatyczne Information&Communication Technology Centre
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- [cat-users] Apple devices: support proxy auto-discovery (WPAD)?, Stefan Winter, 11/18/2013
- Re: [cat-users] Apple devices: support proxy auto-discovery (WPAD)?, Tomasz Wolniewicz, 11/18/2013
- Re: [cat-users] Apple devices: support proxy auto-discovery (WPAD)?, A . L . M . Buxey, 11/18/2013
- Re: [cat-users] Apple devices: support proxy auto-discovery (WPAD)?, Stefan Winter, 11/18/2013
- Re: [cat-users] Apple devices: support proxy auto-discovery (WPAD)?, A . L . M . Buxey, 11/18/2013
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