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[mc36 <>]

so as it turned out that janos have a busy calendar these days
and still unsure if he could come or not,
can we have the next rare meeting at nanog? :)


On 8/26/22 09:28, mc36 wrote:
> and yeahh, janos i hope you could come with me much like when we were at thet 
> stf15
> and i remember well the complains you said there so please organize at least 
> a week of stay
> the time difference really needs to be handled somehow after the arrival
>
>
>
> On 8/26/22 09:17, mc36 wrote:
> > hi,
> > surely hell yeahhh lets' do that!
> > what's your prefernce here, the previously suggested nanog or the ietf?
> >
> > i heard recently that the somehow found some funds to cover some travel 
> > costs...
> > please find ivana and janos in the to list, imho they'll respond back about 
> > their possibilities!
> > thanks,
> > cs
> >
> >
> > On 8/26/22 08:33, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > No problem Csaba. :)
> > >
> > > Thanks for your support. I was very happy to read about your thought process 
> > > and how you chose CT, how the kiss principle influenced the decision.
> > >
> > > If you get a chance, you could share your insights with the IDR-chair (Sue 
> > > Hares), unicast email is fine.
> > >
> > > I’ve seen she very much values insightful feedback from real customers. And 
> > > you are a unique mix, that you are not only a customer, but also a developer. 
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Your feedback may go a long way in keeping the kiss principle alive in IDR.
> > >
> > > PS: fyi, I was able to subscribe to rare-users, but rare-dev page timed-out 
> > > for some reason. Will retry sometime later.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Kaliraj
> > >
> > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > *Date: *Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:40 PM
> > > *To: * <>, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz 
> > > <>, Tim Chown <>
> > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > *Subject: *Re: [rare-dev] Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > >
> > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > >
> > >
> > > hi,
> > > sadly informing you my colleguaes at junos, that as it turned out, it's a 
> > > moderated list...
> > > i had to archive an important part of the conversation we haad in the wide 
> > > public:
> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.facebook.com/mc36mc36/posts/pfbid02jN7yrSNcqj1qEwMjJ5nmqaFFP6EN3wzyyMgPBjwgCnoeq5G6NoBSNc5mT5DmrvL4l__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!D8ZLCVvfTIWGAvcHeUkxI6fgohzpeWjV08mC2BPkFQkJ3F3rR5-X-r3XTvYSdmbqW000Yw8A$
> > >  
> > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/mc36mc36/posts/pfbid02jN7yrSNcqj1qEwMjJ5nmqaFFP6EN3wzyyMgPBjwgCnoeq5G6NoBSNc5mT5DmrvL4l__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!D8ZLCVvfTIWGAvcHeUkxI6fgohzpeWjV08mC2BPkFQkJ3F3rR5-X-r3XTvYSdmbqW000Yw8A$>
> > > sorry for the hungarian text, normally the translate button will solve the 
> > > issues if somehow you're interested about the surroundings...
> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5538911706216369&set=p.5538911706216369&type=3__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!D8ZLCVvfTIWGAvcHeUkxI6fgohzpeWjV08mC2BPkFQkJ3F3rR5-X-r3XTvYSdmbqWy9pqt-e$
> > >  
> > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5538911706216369&set=p.5538911706216369&type=3__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!D8ZLCVvfTIWGAvcHeUkxI6fgohzpeWjV08mC2BPkFQkJ3F3rR5-X-r3XTvYSdmbqWy9pqt-e$>
> > > thanks for your sincere understanding... or dafakk....:)
> > > br,
> > > cs
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/25/22 09:16, mc36 wrote:
> > > > hi,
> > > >
> > > > On 8/25/22 08:30, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > Understood Csaba. Thanks for the background history. Glad to know that.
> > > > >
> > > > > > hopefully i can recall some of the reasons with the vs.pdf at hand... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure, that pdf was made for that very purpose. We’re glad you found it 
> > > > > helpful. Sure, we will keep it updated with more information.
> > > > >
> > > > > Though I’ve also learnt that we remain more productive staying away from ct 
> > > > > vs car discussions, as much as possible. :)
> > > > excellent! we too! you can imagine that such a small team of somewhat 10 
> > > > members?
> > > > normally we shouldn't have any chance to alter the decision process in any 
> > > > way...
> > > > or anyway... it's not about the length of the d*ck but to make the world a 
> > > > better place, isn't it?
> > > > so let the better draft win!
> > > > just that, it would be nice if sooner or later a draft could be be picked up 
> > > > by most of the vendors:
> > > > tim asked questions about a distributed orchestra in the eu and so one can do it with 
> > > > the "verbatim-te",
> > > > and static flooding the multicast to the 2 disjoint paths, but it still, 
> > > > seems much fancyer with the colored bgp-lu... :)
> > > > but dont be misunderstood, we're fine with the bgp-lu, and the roof is not on 
> > > > fire at all...
> > > >
> > > > long story short, take your time, as you saw already with the
> > > > first plan of me about the rare implementation, we clearly dont
> > > > have the competence to say a nor b here...
> > > > clearly speaking, basically you donated the higher level design,
> > > > and you did this the hard way, you jumped into my rabbithole to
> > > > show me the issues with my original idea... thanks for doing so!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > that shared folder must be juniper internal storage thing
> > > > >
> > > > > The shared folder is a microsoft onedrive page. Named “Juniper-BGP-CT”. I 
> > > > > hope that is what you are talking about.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are having trouble accessing it, pls let me know. Will share again.
> > > > so i got 2 easyling urls:
> > > > https://easylink.juniper.net/5g-plm <https://easylink.juniper.net/5g-plm>
> > > > https://easylink.juniper.net/slicing <https://easylink.juniper.net/slicing>
> > > > these seems junos internal urls but imho someone from the team will
> > > > be able to access the share through the ms name, so just ignore this...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > and finally, if you have some more that could be interesting for the nren 
> > > > > > community, then please please attach them!
> > > > >
> > > > > The shared folder also has a video demo on MPLS-namespaces, an idea that 
> > > > > helps in scaling an option-C mpls network. Pls see if that helps nren too.
> > > > i knew that we need to get access somehow to the share! :)
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > cs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > >
> > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > *Date: *Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 8:33 PM
> > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>,  
> > > > > <>, Tamas Mondal <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz
> > > > > <>> *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan 
> > > > > Venkataraman <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > *Subject: *Re: [rare-dev] Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > >
> > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi,
> > > > > thanks for giving the chance to explain so here i go:
> > > > > you did it very correctly at the first mail from tony! (imho i should forward 
> > > > > that one too?)
> > > > > then i quickly went thorough the two drafts and cherry-picked the ct because 
> > > > > of the kiss principle...
> > > > > let me reverb this a little bit: i hated the complexity behind the car at the 
> > > > > afi level... surely, doable, but why??
> > > > > the second mail scared me a bit from tony but imho i just misunderstood 
> > > > > something... shift+del-ed after replying... :)
> > > > > then i got these files slowly, and one of them was that vs.pdf and hell,
> > > > > i wont tell you that i could expand all the bullet points, but, some of them 
> > > > > caught me immediately,
> > > > > and i really would try to explain by heart to somebody if they ask me that 
> > > > > why i picket the ct.... :)
> > > > > so at this situation, imho it would be useful for me to say that 'wait a bit, 
> > > > > i know that i've it somewhere',
> > > > > then open 3 beers, 2 for me, and let's see, hopefully i can recall some of 
> > > > > the reasons with the vs.pdf at hand... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > and finally, if you have some more that could be interesting for the nren 
> > > > > community, then please please attach them!
> > > > > that shared folder must be juniper internal storage thing because i cannot 
> > > > > ping that _name_ from route-server.ip.att.net
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > cs
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/25/22 02:35, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > I’d rather avoid any discussions about CAR. But.. ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, that deck can be shared if there is any curiosity on comparing CT vs CAR.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And other materials in that shared folder are OK to share as-well. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you want any email-ids to be added to access the shared folder, pls let us 
> > > > > > know. We can add them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > *Date: *Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 4:46 PM
> > > > > > *To: * <>, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai 
> > > > > > <>, Tamas Mondal <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz
> > > > > > <>
> > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > > > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > *Subject: *Re: [rare-dev] Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ack, will wait a bit then...
> > > > > > btw i also found the "BGP CT vs BGP CAR.pdf" interesting... maybe that too?
> > > > > > and please feel free to shoot me down when i ask too much... :)
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > cs
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/24/22 23:54, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > > I think that’s cool.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But Krzysztof should confirm, as I see he is the author of that slide-deck. 
> > > > > > > PLM material. :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If there is a replay-able link to this webinar video, Krzysztof may want to 
> > > > > > > share that as-well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > *Date: *Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 2:41 PM
> > > > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal 
> > > > > > > <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>
> > > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman <>, 
> > > > > > > Reshma Das <>,  <>
> > > > > > > *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > just a last question for today... can i share the "BGP CT 5G_Network_Slicing 
> > > > > > > Webinar.pdf" you gave me?
> > > > > > > imho i've a use case but with rtp instead of gtp...
> > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > cs
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 22:16, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Understood. :) Ofcourse!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Again, no guarantees on how much we will really be able to contribute to 
> > > > > > > > > code. But we would love to.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nats was thinking about it (implementing CT in freertr) even before Tony 
> > > > > > > > > introduced you to us.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks to Tony, you have been awesome. We could not have pulled off 
> > > > > > > > > implementing bgp-ct in freertr
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in such short order.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And hopefully the design brainstorming we have been having so far is helpful. 
> > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > > > *Date: *Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 12:41 PM
> > > > > > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal 
> > > > > > > > > <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>
> > > > > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > > > > > > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > > > > *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > okk...
> > > > > > > > > so for example when i asked you that you just want to design to help develop 
> > > > > > > > > and you said both...
> > > > > > > > > for example that, the guys in the team wont believe me, i hope you 
> > > > > > > > > understand.... :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 21:08, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > so can i forward some select mails from this thread to the lists?
> > > > > > > > > > (imho you should do so as there are surely things that you would remove doing 
> > > > > > > > > > beforehand)
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > is a hidden one so it does not appear when you search for it but you should 
> > > > > > > > > > be able to subscribe.. (if not, just tell me)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > so they told me recently that they're doing the twamp measures because they 
> > > > > > > > > > want a distributed orchestra or so...
> > > > > > > > > > but lemme show attach you something... for example that could be a nice use 
> > > > > > > > > > case, if there are not too big distances...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > cs
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 20:56, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, missed that question. Take what public?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The ideas/procedures we shared with you are kind of public already. Explained 
> > > > > > > > > > > the BGP-CT draft :)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I didn’t get your question. Can you explain pls?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > > > > > *Date: *Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:51 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal 
> > > > > > > > > > > <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>
> > > > > > > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > > > > > > > > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > > > > > > *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > but could i ask once again if can we take it somehow public?
> > > > > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > cs
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 20:49, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > thanks! i wont limit, imho the list will result in less loc....
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 20:46, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That   s right. :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It can be either order based(left, right) or you can explicitly specify the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > priority order.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You may limit it to two vrfs, for simplicity.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It   s like,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >        * for MC <community>,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take <transport-vrf1> as primary
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take <transport-vrf2> as fallback. [optional]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > MC is mapping-community that comes on route and signals the resolution-scheme 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to use.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > e.g.:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >        * for MC color:0:100,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take color-100 vrf as primary
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take default-vrf as fallback.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >        * for MC transport-target:0:100,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take color-100 vrf as primary. (no fallback)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >        * for MC color:0:101,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take color-100 as primary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >        * for MC transport-target:0:101,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take default-vrf as primary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >        * for MC color:0:X,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take color-Y vrf as primary
> > > > > > > > > > > > >                o take color-Z as fallback.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > When a route matches NO such local resolution-scheme, then it takes default-vrf as primary resolution-rib (that   s your current implemented behavior). Backward 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > compatible.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Date: *Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for the confirmation, then tomorrow i'll start what i've written as 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > plan b...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for the resolution scheme, if i got you correctly (well not:) so that knob 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ask the user for a list of vrfs and i must try from left to right in them if 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > i found
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the ibgp nexthop, right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 18:39, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and tbh this way seems easier than the rd hacks.... :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ack! Csaba. :) fully agree.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and finally, the vrfs and bridges also will get a new knob to set vrf used 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for resolution...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Correct. That gives per-rib (vrf and bridges) scoped control, to say which    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    transport layer color-vrf used for resolution       (aka 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution-scheme).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that is one step closer to the final required state         where the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution-scheme(color-vrf used for resolution) is decided based on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > mapping-community/color that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > arrives on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the received bgp-route. i.e. gives per route scoped control to pick the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolution-scheme.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the reason I talk about       resolution-scheme       construct as an 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > indirection:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mapping-community --1:1--> resolution-scheme     --1:n--> {color-vrf}.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Initial implementation in freertr, n=1. But If/When you provide       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fallback       option for the configured resolution-scheme, then n becomes 2.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > That will be a complete CT implementation. :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Date: *Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 4:11 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and tbh this way seems easier than the rd hacks.... :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 13:10, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and finally, the vrfs and bridges also will get a new knob to set vrf used 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for resolution...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 12:38, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after a quick lunch i must acknowledge that you know the topic better so my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apologies! :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plan b:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the user must configure separate vrfs for the colors
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing special, just the regular rib
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the user must configure them and bind to a global vrf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that binding will populate the connected routes from the global (needed here 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at various points)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the user must configure the igps to pick the algos and place the routes to a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > colored vrfs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the bgp will reuse the regular vpnv4 l3vpn import/export mechnaisms but from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the ct afi and not from the vpnv4 afi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does it sound better?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps: if we agree, i must charge cisco for doing his homework.... :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 10:16, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > expressions --> programs... no limit here, it's a full tcl interpreter ran 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > over the attribs if configured...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 10:14, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not that ugly, i have tcl in the rpls: one can write _arbitrary_ expressions 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the routeEntry attribs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/rare-freertr/freeRtr/blob/master/src/net/freertr/tab/tabRouteUtil.java*L34__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!G-_Xz7nJBYAGPp2dQeyhTCFyi-jd7I1md7Eh9ORHBr2Nf9g0P5vjtRgg8N1Q6-5inQd8nqK0$ 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/rare-freertr/freeRtr/blob/master/src/net/freertr/tab/tabRouteUtil.java*L34__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!G-_Xz7nJBYAGPp2dQeyhTCFyi-jd7I1md7Eh9ORHBr2Nf9g0P5vjtRgg8N1Q6-5inQd8nqK0$ 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/rare-freertr/freeRtr/blob/master/src/net/freertr/tab/tabRouteUtil.java*L34__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!G-_Xz7nJBYAGPp2dQeyhTCFyi-jd7I1md7Eh9ORHBr2Nf9g0P5vjtRgg8N1Q6-5inQd8nqK0$ 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/rare-freertr/freeRtr/blob/master/src/net/freertr/tab/tabRouteUtil.java*L34__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-gk!G-_Xz7nJBYAGPp2dQeyhTCFyi-jd7I1md7Eh9ORHBr2Nf9g0P5vjtRgg8N1Q6-5inQd8nqK0$>>>>>>>>
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 09:26, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yeahhh, got it...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so if i go with the current idea then, for the anycast case, i'll need to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list all the participants...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ugly but still don't see why would not work...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 08:54, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what about your implementation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Junos ingress does not use the RD for nexthop-resolution. it segregates the tunnel-routes (bgp, rsvp-te, srte, flex) based on their RT (color). And then 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > performs the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lookup
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for a ibgp-nexthop (plain ip-prefix) in the right color db.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you use the same rd for the same color on announcing?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today Junos originates unique auto-RDs (configured-rd-seed-ipaddr : <id>).    
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >      I still need to implement allowing explicitly configuring an RD value.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So two different Junos-PEs may originate unique RD bgp-ct routes, but with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > same color route-target, for an anycast-nexthop-address for e.g.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it is an unicast-nexthop-address, then you         re right - there could 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be a 1:1 mapping between RD to Color (or it could be N:1 also). If 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anycast-nexthop,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not true
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anymore.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, even for unicast-nexthop-address, let us say, we are resolving 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ibgp-route and looking for RD1:PE11
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                  * The route providing this reachability will typically be an isis-flex or rsvp-te route. That route will not have any RD for PE11, PE12 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tunnel-routes.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                  * So when you lookup for RD:PE11, how do you get to the rsvp-te route? Unless you add RD config to the rsvp-te/flex config on a per egress-PE 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                  * I think it may not be practical for the ingress PE/ASBR to know and maintain such per-egress-PE RD config. Too many touch points when a new 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PE is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > added
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to network.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So in the draft as-well, we suggest doing a lookup for the plain ip-nexthop 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the transport route database (per color tunnel db)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again, i havent seen a junos originated bgp-ct route yet, i just travrse the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vsrx...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Fyi: Following is the config that will make an egress-PE junos node 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > originate bgp-ct route:
> > >  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                  set routing-options 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > route-distinguisher-id 1.1.1.1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                  set routing-options 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transport-class name gold color 100 tunnel-egress end-point 1.1.1.1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      set protocols bgp 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ibgp-peer> export-policy export-bgp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                  set policy-options 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > policy-statement export-policy term 1 from bgp.transport.3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                  set policy-options 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > policy-statement export-policy term 1 from protocol direct
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                  set policy-options 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > policy-statement export-policy term 1 then accept
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      set policy-options 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > policy-statement export-policy term def then reject
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kaliraj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Date: *Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 10:31 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bsaically one can set it already as an import policy to the peer....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 07:30, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > noti(cfg-rouplc)#show running-config this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > info userReader.cmdEnter:userReader.java:1087 command noti(cfg-rouplc)#show 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running-config this                 from local:telnet <loop> 23 -> 127.0.0.1 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 58682
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2022-08-24 07:30:12
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > route-policy asdf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  sequence 10 if extcomm 1:1:1234
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  sequence 20                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set rd 1955:1234
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  sequence 30 elsif extcomm 1:1:4321
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  sequence 40                                 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set rd 1955:4321
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  sequence 50 enif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  sequence 60 pass
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  exit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > !
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > noti(cfg-rouplc)#
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so this is already there...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 07:16, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heayyy, excellent question, thanks... :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my opinion is, that for me, the rd is enough, and i'll do an 1:1 mapping with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the rd and the color
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the rpl will allow one to do the rt and color mapping, but my preference here 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is clearly the rd:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > qucker becasue no list lookup in the extcomm attrib...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what about your implementation?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you use the same rd for the same color on announcing?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again, i havent seen a junos originated bgp-ct route yet, i just travrse the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vsrx...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 07:10, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I was talking about the third one.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it must check the outer-rd [optionally rpl] to pick the proper
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ibgp nexthop when resolving the customer routes: right now, the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0:0:ibgp-nexthop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is what freerouter looks for, and, that's what i need to make configurable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is where I have a disconnect. It looks like you are using RD to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pick the colored-nexthop. It should instead be the RT, because the RD does not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > signify the color, only RT does.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. we should segregate the tunnels in separate color buckets. And then look
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for the ibgp-nexthop in right color bucket. Instead of looking for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RD:ibgp-nexthop.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I misunderstand something?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Date: *Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 9:25 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so such a thing could be traversed several ways, as usual... :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what initially will be there is the inter-as-option-c way: that is,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asbr21 and asbr22 will map between isis and ebgp-ct back and forth,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and there will not be ibgp-ct in between them...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the p will see all the colorful /32 transport routes in ospf/isis from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all the 3 ases... that's what geant does... here, as2 can easily provision
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a vpn existing in all the 3 ases at once without any trick...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for it, i just need to code the flexalgo reader/writer to the igps...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it'll arrive first, and it'll be called the ospf/isis + flexalgo feature...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the next stop when i'll add the outer-rd knob under vrf and bridge 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > definitions,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one will be able to do a colorful csc mpls vpn, that is, as1 and as3 will be 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > customers of as2, so p will not see nor as1 nor as3 /32s at all because 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they'll be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in a vrf in as2. here if as2 adds a pe then he'll be able to announce to the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vrf of as1 and as3 but not into a service vrf in as1 and as3, without doing 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tricks...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here the color preservation will happen at asbr21, when it learns an vpnv4 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > route
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from asbr22, it must check the outer-rd [optionally rpl] to pick the proper
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ibgp nexthop when resolving the customer routes: right now, the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0:0:ibgp-nexthop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is what freerouter looks for, and, that's what i need to make configurable...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and finally the seamless mpls case, when the p again wont see the /32s from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as1 nor as3.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the two asbr will have the ibgp-ct, and it'll also use the same outer-rd 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > config knob,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but here, from the global vrf... i have the feeling that it'll arrive 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > automatically
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after doing the second step properly, if not, i'll just find out that what 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > did i wrong
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > during the first two steps... it stands because freerouter dont have global 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at all...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and imho you're referring to the third one, right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/22 01:26, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agree with redistribution config semantics.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But one thing I should clarify..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think for the current use-case we are talking about,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as1                                                                           
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >         as2                                                                   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (junos)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (freertr)                                                                     
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                           (junos)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pe11---p----asbr11                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                          asbr31----p-----pe31
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |                                                                             
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >       |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > \                                                                             
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                       /       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                         |
> > > > > > > > > > > |                                                                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > >       |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |                                                                             
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >       |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asbr21---p---asbr22                                                           
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                     |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |                                                                             
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >       |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |                                                                             
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >       |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /                                                                             
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                       \       
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                 |
> > > > > > > > > > > |                                                                             
> > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > >       |
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pe12---p----asbr12                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                          asbr32----p-----pe32
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asbr21 and asbr22 in as2 don                                 t need to do any 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isis->bgp redistribution into bgp-ct.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as2 will just readvertise the received bgp-ct routes with nexthop-self.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But when asbr21 receives those bgp-ct routes from asbr22, it will just need 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to ensure it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > resolves the nexthop over the right color tunnel, based on the mapping-community 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (transport-target:0:<color>)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the bgp-ct route. To show an end-to-end colored domain (that is what you 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > were intending to achieve by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementing the Redistribution part, if I understood you right?), this is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the piece that will need to be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implemented in freertr. Implementing the redistribution part at asbr21,22 may 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not help this cause.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > cool! then which nanog is your target?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is nanog-86.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaliraj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Date: *Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 2:58 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai <>, Tamas Mondal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan Venkataraman 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's your current email ...
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, so the rpl would be this to be precise:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > route-policy isis2bgp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence 10 if network 0.0.0.0/0 ge 32 le 32
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence 20                                                                
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rd 0:100
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      set rd 1955:100
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 40                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      set extcomm 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1234:1234:1234
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence 50
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > elsif rd
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0:200
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 60                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      set rd 1955:100
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 70                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      set extcomm 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1234:1234:1234
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 80                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      pass
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    sequence 90 enif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                                               
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >    exit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but okk... so thanks for the confirmation, i'll start implementing that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'll let you know when i have something... hopefully you won't have to wait 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too much...:)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/23/22 23:41, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > On 8/23/22 22:43, Kaliraj Vairavakkalai 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>> routes, but, they'll use the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rd=0:algo-id format when generating the routes to the rib... then, one can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>> map easily back and forth at the asbrs 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in between the igp and the bgp-ct... imho that's all what i need...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> I think that model works too. RD is just 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a disambiguator. Just that the flexalgo route should also know
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it                                                                 s color
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value, that gets encoded as transport
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > route-target
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> bgp-ct route.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > so as it's just a redistribution, and as 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such, it can have an rpl so one can do whatever needed with the resulting routes:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > !
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > route-policy isis2bgp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      sequence 10 if rd 0:100
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                     set rd 1955:100
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 30                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                     set extcomm 1234:1234:1234
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      sequence 40 elsif rd 0:200
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 50                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                     set rd 1955:100
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      sequence
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 60                                                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                     set extcomm 1234:1234:1234
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      sequence 70 enif
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      exit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > !
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > router bgp4 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      vrf inet
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      local-as 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      router-id 1.1.1.1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      address-family ctp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      redistribute isis4 1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > route-policy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isis2bgp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      neighbor ....
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >                                            
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                      exit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > !
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > and the same at the reverse direction...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> When I look deeper into freertr code, I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may be able to imagine and opine better. Pls bear with me until then, and take any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > input
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with pinch of salt.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ��                                > sure thing, and thanks a lot for your 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > effort doing so!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> You know what works best for freertr 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code/design. I                                                                 m 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to doing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > virtual whiteboarding explaining more of junos
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design, if required.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > thanks again, but for now, imho i got the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idea!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> And, for the NANOG
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demo                                                                          
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                                        sure I think doing it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remotely
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works just fine.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > cool! then which nanog is your target?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  > cs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> Kaliraj
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> *From: *mc36 <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> *Date: *Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 12:51 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> *To: *Kaliraj Vairavakkalai 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>, Tamas Mondal <>, Krzysztof Szarkowicz
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> *Cc: *Antoni Przygienda <>, Natrajan 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venkataraman <>, Reshma Das <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> *Subject: *Re: Ping me Csaba if that's 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your current email ...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> [External Email. Be cautious of content]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> On 8/23/22 20:57, mc36 wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>> o for now, the bgp-ct routes are part of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the rib, much like the vpnv4 routes... that's what works...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>> and my plan is to add the flex-algos 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > real quick to the igps, and they'll also create just these rd:prefix
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>> routes, but, they'll use the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rd=0:algo-id format when generating the routes to the rib... then, one can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>> map easily back and forth at the asbrs 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in between the igp and the bgp-ct... imho that's all what i need...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> after a quick googling, imho junos dont 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > use this trick as much as cisco does:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> map --> mutual redistribution...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> imho as2 will be color aware this way 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > internally and externally in a consistent way...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> what's your opinion?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >> cs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >                                  >>
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