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[Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>]

Hi,
http://technical.edugain.org/ is on-line for testing. We will still need to make it available over https.
This is not yet an official site.

http://technical.edugain.org/entities.php shows the listing of eduGAIN entities with various possibilities of filtering. This is still work in progress, but any comments are welcome. Unfortunately it looks like some of our database queries will need to be reorganised which may lead to better information quality, but slightly worse performance, so some changes need to be expected.

Cheers
Tomasz

W dniu 2015-01-14 o 08:31, Tomasz Wolniewicz pisze:

54B61B4F.7060002 AT umk.pl"> Hi,
  I have created an example information page:
https://www.edugain.org/technical/federations.php

Please let me know if this meets the requirements in any way, perhaps more information is useful, perhaps the layout could be improved?

Our plan is to set up the technical site at https://technical.edugain.org - possibly a more user-friendly name.

Tomasz

W dniu 2015-01-13 o 23:09, Tomasz Wolniewicz pisze:

54B59798.2050104 AT umk.pl"> Hi Niels,
  I have digested the thread and I strongly agree with Peter that publishing too much can be harmful, but I also understand your need to point to a single place that could lead the IdP further to their home federations.

I do not think that eduGAIN should publish links to metadata feeds, not to mention the signing certificate of any federation, what it can do is provide pointers to federation pages. http://www.edugain.org/technical/status.php uses the edugain database to provide technical information, it is trivial enough to produce a separate page showing just a list of federations as links to their home pages. I also see not problem in providing this information in JSON if someone prefers to build one's own page, here however we would possibly need to consider if we want to allow that or rather prefer to keep this info in an eduGAIN https page.

By the way, eduGAIN database now contains all entities and can provide some interesting info. While this is still work in progress, I hope I will be able to present a peek view of this by the end of this week.

I agree with Chris that we have a visibility problem of the technical site. This happens every time someone decides to rebuild the GEANT page and drops the link to the technical site. I hope we can influence the responsible people to reinstate this.

Cheers
Tomasz



W dniu 13.01.2015 o 16:26, Niels van Dijk pisze:

Hi Nicole, all,

That looks very useful. Two feature requests:
1) the ability to add a link to local support documentation (basically
my initial question that started this discussion)
2) a version that can be directly referenced. Currently it is based on
a _javascript_ event, which makes this impossible.

Cheers,
Niels

On 13-01-15 11:12, Nicole Harris wrote:
> Hi All

> I spoke to the edugain team and the suggestion is to make:
> https://wiki.edugain.org/isFederatedCheck/ the authoritative
> source (click on the "all known federations" link to see the
> federation information) with the aim to embed this tool in eduGAIN
> technical site toolkit properly in the future.  So a good
> opportunity to make sure that the information is correct and to add
> information about edugain to your metadata page if it is not
> already there.

> Hope that helps

> Nicole

> On 12/01/2015 16:48, Ian Young wrote:
>>> On 12 Jan 2015, at 15:01, Niels van Dijk
>>> <niels.vandijk AT surfnet.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps even with a direct pointer to support pages. At SURFnet
>>> we have this: https://support.surfconext.nl/edugain, I suspect
>>> many federations have similar stuff. Basically I would like a
>>> list of all these support pages I guess.
>> If there was a facility to register such a page with the eduGAIN
>> OT for publication on the technical page or elsewhere then I
>> think a lot of federations would be happy to register something.
>> As you say, most of us probably have something very close to this
>> already.
>>
>> It might seem strange for me to support linking (say) a UKf
>> support page intended to inform our members about eduGAIN from an
>> eduGAIN page -- after all, they could surely find that on our
>> site -- but I think I take your point that if the person who is
>> talking to you is not fully informed then your pointing them at
>> our documentation cuts a few corners and perhaps helps to make
>> the experience more pleasant.
>>
>> I wouldn't recommend going any further than that; if something
>> isn't obvious to our member from the page you link to them, they
>> should come and talk to our helpdesk.
>>
>> -- Ian
>>
>>
>>
>>

>

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Uczelniane Centrum Informatyczne   Information&Communication Technology Centre
Uniwersytet Mikolaja Kopernika     Nicolaus Copernicus University,
pl. Rapackiego 1, Torun               pl. Rapackiego 1, Torun, Poland
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Tomasz Wolniewicz    
          twoln AT umk.pl        http://www.home.umk.pl/~twoln

Uczelniane Centrum Informatyczne   Information&Communication Technology Centre
Uniwersytet Mikolaja Kopernika     Nicolaus Copernicus University,
pl. Rapackiego 1, Torun               pl. Rapackiego 1, Torun, Poland
tel: +48-56-611-2750     fax: +48-56-622-1850       tel kom.: +48-693-032-576