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Re: [eduGAIN-discuss] eduGAIN metadata requirements in regard to discovery


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  • From: Leif Johansson <leifj AT sunet.se>
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  • Subject: Re: [eduGAIN-discuss] eduGAIN metadata requirements in regard to discovery
  • Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 14:06:20 +0100
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On 12/23/2014 01:49 PM, Niels van Dijk wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Reading through the eduGAIN metdata requirements (Which I think
> live here:
> http://services.geant.net/edugain/Resources/Documents/eduGAIN_metadata_profile_v3.doc)
>
> I get the impression we have done our best to make IdP discovery
> as hard as possible:
>
> - We do not require a display name for an IdP at all, neither in
> the native language nor in English. - We do not require a logo;
> actually the logo is not even mentioned in the document as a
> could/should. As such there is no recommendation on size and on the
> way to present it (url vs embedded).
>
> Basically, when literally interpreting the mandatory parts of the
> spec, the only reasonable thing for an SP to do is to fall back to
> presenting the entityID. Typically not something a user will
> understand intuitively...
>
> I understand that we may want to keep the level of entry as low as
> possible but what users get served by an IdP they cannot find in a
> discovery? Or am I missing something here?

I actually don't think the edugain documents matter that much (in this
respect) when it comes to actual deployment.

Instead I suspect those of us who implement discovery services will do
a reasonable job to use whatever information is found in metadata to
present something useful to the user.

As mdui-aware discovery services become more common there will be a
natural pressure to provide more information in metadata which will
resolve the issue eventually.

Cheers Leif
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