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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025
- From: Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>
- To: "Herivault, Jacques" <herivault.jacques AT uqam.ca>, Stefan Paetow <Stefan.Paetow AT jisc.ac.uk>, "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
- Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025
- Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 23:31:57 +0200
Hi,
I think I would like to get more information about this difference between Windows 11 and Windows 10. If you change the certificates in the CAT profiles and the user run the new installers then the installer will remove the old profile and install the new one pointing to the new root certificate. I cannot imagine how Windows 11 can differ from Windows 10 here.
Yours
Tomasz
Hello,
To follow up on why I asked this question originally, it was because we just changed our certificate chain for our users with a good impact on them.
For your information, since all our users had to change their CAT profiles to get the new chain, we have had to adjust our user documentation for Windows 11 because now it seems that these CAT users need to go into the EAP properties to select the root certificate for the connection to work. Windows 10 users do not have to do this.
This does not seem to be a proper manipulation to impose on users. Either the executable needs to be adjusted or a Windows 11 package needs to be created.
Regards,
____________________________________________________________
Jacques Hérivault
Chargé de projet TI
Services informatiques – Direction des réseaux
herivault.jacques AT uqam.ca
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Date : jeudi, 22 mai 2025 à 08:17
À : Stefan Paetow
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Objet : Re: [[cat-users]]
Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on
May 30 2025
Hi Stefan,
your answer probably comes out of a confusion. The certificate in question was for signing the mobileconfig not the Windows exe. While Windows installers are signed with the use of timestamping and the validity of the signature does not expire with the validity of the signing certificate itself, for mobileconfig we have not been using timestamping (so far) and the the expired cert will generate a warning from the Apple system.
We are looking into the possibility of timestamping these as well.
Cheers
Tomasz
W dniu 22.05.2025 o 12:00, Stefan Paetow (via cat-users Mailing List) pisze:
Ciao Daniele,
No, the signing does not prevent people from using the installers. The certificate is used to sign the executable, which allows a user to verify that it comes from a reputable (i.e. CAT) source and that it's not been tampered with.
So users won't see anything different, unless they right-click and look at the signing information in the Properties menu.
With kind regards
Stefan Paetow
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From: <cat-users-request AT lists.geant.org> on behalf of "ALBRIZIO DANIELE (via cat-users Mailing List)" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
Reply to: ALBRIZIO DANIELE <albrizio AT units.it>
Date: Thursday, 22 May 2025 at 10:44
To: Tomasz Wolniewicz <twoln AT umk.pl>, "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>, "herivault.jacques AT uqam.ca" <herivault.jacques AT uqam.ca>
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Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025
I think Jacques Hérivault, asking "please advise on what impact we must face when it will be renewed" meant what impact on users and helpdesk we must face.
Is it correct to say that users with an installer downloaded before yesterday will not be able to run it after May 30 2025 and they will get a non proceed warning about certificate expiration?
On Wed, 2025-05-21 at 19:01 +0200, Tomasz Wolniewicz wrote:
Hi,
the signing certificate has been renewed and all downloaded mobileconfig files will be signed with the new ones.
Yours
Tomasz Wolniewicz
W dniu 19.05.2025 o 17:26, "Herivault, Jacques" (via cat-users Mailing List) pisze:
Hello,
The cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat that is included in our CAT Eduroam profils downloaded on our users devices is expirering on May 30 2025.
Could you please advise on what impact we must face when it will be renewed ?
Thank you.
Regards,
____________________________________________________________
Jacques Hérivault
Chargé de projet TI
Services informatiques – Direction des réseaux
herivault.jacques AT uqam.ca
514-987-3000 poste 2576
servicesinformatiques.uqam.ca
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[[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Herivault, Jacques, 05/19/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Tomasz Wolniewicz, 05/21/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
ALBRIZIO DANIELE, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Stefan Paetow, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Tomasz Wolniewicz, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Herivault, Jacques, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Tomasz Wolniewicz, 05/22/2025
- Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025, Herivault, Jacques, 05/22/2025
- Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025, Tomasz Wolniewicz, 05/23/2025
- Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025, Martin Pauly, 05/23/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Tomasz Wolniewicz, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Herivault, Jacques, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Tomasz Wolniewicz, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Stefan Paetow, 05/22/2025
- Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025, Tomasz Wolniewicz, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
ALBRIZIO DANIELE, 05/22/2025
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Re: [[cat-users]] Cat-signer-ams.eduroam.org certificat expirering on May 30 2025,
Tomasz Wolniewicz, 05/21/2025
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