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  • From: Paul Dekkers <paul.dekkers AT surf.nl>
  • To: Lukas Wringer <Lukas.Wringer AT rz.uni-augsburg.de>, cat-users AT lists.geant.org
  • Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] testing beta version of geteduroam for Android 11
  • Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 15:45:38 +0200
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Hi,

On 30/08/2021 13:33, Lukas Wringer wrote:
Hi,

as I got no reply to either of my mails I try it a third time (with more Questions):
Not my intention; I guess I wasn't sure if I was the right person to answer, AND I was on vacation some time which is also a good reason to ..  not answer ;-)
- can the MIME-Type fix be backported for Andorid 10? As there are devices around that do not work with the traditional CAT App..

It cannot be backported. We can never have an App for Android 10 that works as good as the current one, sorry :-(

That's mostly because of the API change enforced by Google for apps published in the Play store.

- The new drawbacks leave me a bit puzzled - wasn't it the reason for using geteduroam in the first place to support Android 11?

I don't know if I completely understand. The geteduroam app was developed not just to replace Android 11.

You may notice the new App is still not pushed in the Play store; we're still investigating other options, and also noticed changes in Android 12.

- As I have recieved an Update now to Android 11 I was able to test it:

   - is there a way to find the configured Network anywhere in the
     System? Or can you put a Indicator into the App that is is
     ready/already configured?

There is indeed not using Suggestions; this means we may need to create some profile display too.

We're trying a different approach that may improve it because it will configure a user manageable network, but it wasn't supported (well, crashed) in the early builds of Android 11. We may come up with a newer beta at some point that uses this.

- How can I edit the connection (ege. password)?
You cannot, you can only reconfigure your connection (which is kind of the same).
If this is not the right place to ask about this, where ist it?

I guess I did write this mail here, so I should have felt addressed by your mail and in this context it is the right place. Sorry I didn't reply sooner.

Regards,
Paul


Greetings, Lukas

Am 09.08.21 um 14:57 schrieb Lukas Wringer:
Hi,

on 02.07 I sent the following mail - but did not get an answer. Do I have to ask somewhere else then this list?

Greetings, Lukas

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Hi,

somehow this mail slipped through my attention...

First: can the MIME-Type fix be backported for Andorid 10? As there are devices around that do not work with the traditional CAT App?

I considder a bug that is silently replacing all (not by hand configured) default apps with itself rather malicious. On my OnePlus 6 even WhatsApp calls from my adress book are now automatically redirected to geteduroam.

Second: The new drawbacks leave me a bit puzzled - wasn't it the reason for using geteduroam in the first place to support Android 11?

If I remmeber correctly we had used it on an Android 11 test device before this update...

Greetings, Lukas

Am 02.06.21 um 16:22 schrieb Paul Dekkers:
Hi cat-users,

We have a new build of geteduroam for Android available for beta testing, and welcome feedback (positive and negative) before releasing it as production. Only Android 11 will receive this update to version 1.0.20, older versions will stick to 1.0.16.

You can join the beta channels via:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.eduroam.geteduroam from Android, or
https://play.google.com/apps/testing/app.eduroam.geteduroam from the web

If prefer an APK, this APK works only (!) for Android 11: https://get.eduroam.org/app/geteduroam-1.0.20-android11.apk

The new version will configure the network in a different way compared to the previous 1.0.16 version, via “Suggestions”, which is the API for Android 11.

This has some drawbacks; not our choice, but mandatory for App updates that target Android 11. Your network may appear unconfigured at first (and you can even still configure it manually), but it will connect as soon as there are no other user-networks to connect to. It will not manage your (existing) user created network; if you have an existing eduroam configuration your device will use that until you remove it. If you remove the App, you remove the App-managed networks.

Improved in this App:
- You will receive a notification about pseudo-account expiration 5 days ahead of time
- Mime type correction, app will not be suggested for other downloads
- French translation
- Various bugfixes (also related to the earlier Suggestions support)

While we’re at it, we could also use testers for the Windows geteduroam App, that works for regular CAT profiles too. This is at https://get.eduroam.org/app/geteduroam.exe

Regards,
Paul

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