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Re: [[cat-users]] eduroam CAT with Let's Encrypt


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  • From: Matthew Slowe <Matthew.Slowe AT jisc.ac.uk>
  • To: "cat-users AT lists.geant.org" <cat-users AT lists.geant.org>
  • Cc: Mikael Bak <bak.mikael AT oszk.hu>
  • Subject: Re: [[cat-users]] eduroam CAT with Let's Encrypt
  • Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 09:47:50 +0000
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On 23 Apr 2019, at 10:32, Mikael Bak <bak.mikael AT oszk.hu> wrote:

Hi list,

I wonder if there is a way to use Let's Encrypt and automatic cert
renewal with eduroam CAT?

Is it a good idea? Is it even possible?

I’ve been lurking on this list for a while so feel free to take with a pinch of salt.

Any issues with CAT specifically aside, I’m not sure that LE is a sustainable model for eduroam type authentication as you’ve got very little control over when the Root changes. My home-based LE certificates have a Root which expires in September 2021 — so, even if LE continued to use this Root up to the bitter end, the best case would be that users would need to intervene (download a new CAT profile?) before then to maintain service.

That’s then coupled with LE's non-web renewal process still being a bit clunky - needing DNS TXT records in place (and possibly changing?) to renew.

Current thinking is that a local, long-lived Root CA (which could be dedicated to RADIUS authentication) be used and published via CAT then service certificates be issued using that.

There’s a pretty good breakdown of the pros and cons (not specifically for LE) here:

https://wiki.geant.org/display/H2eduroam/EAP+Server+Certificate+considerations 

Hope that helps (and someone might correct my inaccuracies!)

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